Changes in booting with ubuntu-server 10.04

[Egbert Jan van den Bussche]

I have not tried any of the alpha or beta releases yet. But now I see
Micheal's horror story. PLEASE do not assume that a server can display ANY
kind of graphics. All my servers run headles and can only be logged in with
ssh.  If really no other way, I have to bring a keyboard/display to the
rack...
Again please let the init messages flow over our consoles.

Just my 2$c
Egbert Jan (NL)
HCC!Hobbynet admininistrator


> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: ubuntu-server-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com 
> [mailto:ubuntu-server-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] Namens Michael Waltz
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 maart 2010 21:57
> Aan: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
> Onderwerp: Changes in booting with ubuntu-server 10.04
> 
> 
> After trying out the alpha and beta releases of Ubuntu I am 
> finding that 
> the booting method of 10.04 is greatly altered. I understand 
> why there 
> were made, to improve the boot time and make it look nicer, but they 
> seem to contrast with how a server should boot.
> 
> With a traditional unix-like startup a server administrator 
> expects to 
> see what exactly is booting on the system and if there are 
> any failures 
> or warnings. It seems that this is not the case in 10.04 so 
> far. When I 
> first installed Alpha 3, grub automatically booted to the first OS 
> listing without even listing the menu (I understand you can 
> use ESC to 
> go into the menu) and then plymouth took over displaying a 
> splash screen 
> until the login prompt without showing any boot information.
> 
> Are there plans for the 10.04 server version to keep with a 
> traditional 
> server start-up? Or is this the default we should expect upon 
> install? 
> I've changed a few things, such as enabling the grub menu with a 5 
> second timeout, removing plymouth on install, but there are 
> still a few 
> bits that make booting seem odd. The first is that the 
> systems boots by 
> default to tty7, displaying a blank screen like it's expecting X to 
> start up. The second is I'm unable to find a way to have 
> upstart display 
> any information about what init or init.d scripts are running.
> 
> There are a few bug reports on these items, but they're not 
> necessarily 
> "bugs" it seems since this is how the desktop flavor is 
> suppose to work.
> 
> With 10.04 server can we expect a traditional server boot or are 
> individual admins going to have to enable these extra bits of 
> verbosity 
> manually?
> 
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> Micheal Waltz
> SMG Unix Infrastructure
> Qualcomm Inc.
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