Call for testing screen-profiles

Onno Benschop onno at
Thu Jan 15 23:02:00 UTC 2009

On 16/01/09 07:35, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:09:51PM +0100, Mark Schouten wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 15:29 -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote:
>>> Shall we open the floor for other suggested escape sequences?  Please
>>> explain your rationale for why your escape sequence is better than
>>> ctrl-a and ctrl-g...
> I had voted for ctrl-z since it's rare that I background processes, and is
> very close to ctrl-a.
>> 1: Lot's of people do not have a clue what ctrl-a does. Since Ubuntu
>> focuses on ease of use, it also automatically attrackts less experienced
>> users who will not know what ctrl-a is.
> Less experienced users won't likely have an opinion if they don't already
> use screen.
>> 2: Experienced screen-users will default to ctrl-a since that's what
>> they're using for years.
> This is true, but I think it's worth discussing what would make the most
> general sense, if we're suggesting a set of defaults.  ctrl-a conflicts
> with editor motions, so it's not a clear-cut winner.
>> 3: Ctrl-a can be done using one hand. ctrl-a space/$digit switches
>> windows. Maybe it's me, but I don't feel like pressing ctrl-g is a
>> comfortable move, typing wise.
> Ctrl-anything can be done with one hand...  if you mean left-handed, "g" is
> still on the left hand.  The traditional qwerty split is "g" on the left.
> I still like ctrl-z, but hey, that's what .screenrc is for.  :)
I have no particular preference on the issue, but I would like to throw
the following into the ring.

    * At one point I recall a discussion about making screen
      automatically start when connecting to a server. Is that still the
      case? Will that affect the outcome of this discussion?
    * Would it be useful to make the default the same as screen has,
      seeing that it's using screen, but make it configurable - system
      wide, using dpkg-reconfigure. It could be smart enough to notice
      that emacs is already installed - who uses that ;-) - and alert
      the administrator.
    * Are we talking about installing this by default - seeing that
      emacs doesn't appear to be installed by default.

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