Server issues

Karl Goetz kamping_kaiser at
Thu Nov 22 00:38:58 UTC 2007

On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 16:41 -0500, Aaron Kincer wrote:
> I think I understand where you are going with your argument and I'll
> offer you a few of my own ideas.
> If someone wants a shiny GUI, Ubuntu Server as it is out of the box
> isn't for them and never was meant to be for them.

In its current form at any rate. (does the cd offer minimal/lamp/other
type options? iirc it does)

> Perhaps Webmin would be sufficient? If not and someone absolutely

webmin is... not liked. it breaks stuff. (probably worse then avahi

> wants a shiny honking maybe even 3d GUI so they can edit some text
> files in a graphical text editor (insanity of that aside), there is no
> particular reason why you couldn't add your own. Heck, you could, if
> you really wanted, make a standard desktop installation a server.

This method has nasty quirks (esp. if you try and setup dhcpd on the
desktop without thinking to manually kill and remove dhclient)

> Apache will run on a Linux desktop just as happily as it will a
> server. Of course you don't get security updates for as long a period
> of time as you do a server.
> I would like to point out that as far as servers go, a full-time GUI
> is an absolute waste of resources. With the exception of installing
> security updates, I rarely ever even touch my servers.

absolutely agreed.

> Even in small business settings, if someone is frequently getting on
> the server to do something intensive locally, something is wrong. Just
> MHO.

again, absolutely agree.

> >
Karl Goetz <kamping_kaiser at>
Debian / Ubuntu / gNewSense

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