Urdu language digitization

[Shabbir Ahmed]

yes im available any time. im only looking for a calligrapher to find the
exact technical values for the fonts, and gather other required information
so we dont mess things again.

:)

thank you,
Shabbir.


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <sh.yaron at gmail.com>wrote:

> Shabbir, I think we should expand our work to other Linux distros, are you
> up for it?
>
> Yaron Shahrabani
>
> <Hebrew translator>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm very much thank full, GOD be with you all. :)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Bug submit for language-selector (Ubuntu)
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1153188
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Shahar Or <mightyiampresence at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great conversation. Can anyone who understands the issue file a bug
>>>> report please? Add the 'rtl' tag to it, subscribe our team and link it here.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from mobile נשלח מנייד
>>>> On Mar 9, 2013 7:49 PM, "Shabbir Ahmed" <shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yes right, not just ubuntu but non of the softwares does so,  the only
>>>>> way is to use css3 font feature.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to be clear for me, even after installing Urdu language support
>>>>>> in Ubuntu. The Defaults (like fonts in firefox) Does not support well Urdu.
>>>>>> The user need to do many changes to fix problems with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> right? or i am still missing things?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nafeesnaskh is ok, i just made a web site where i my self use CSS3
>>>>>>> and download this font for view. but i think you are not getting my
>>>>>>> intention? is it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For font,
>>>>>>>> fonts-nafees (contains only one font,
>>>>>>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/fonts-nafees), I have
>>>>>>>> compared it, it is the same as this one with same version:
>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you please show me a page as an example to test my side too?
>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ BBC uses CSS3 to use web font instead
>>>>>>>> of installed ones in users desktop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://font.urduweb.org/ &
>>>>>>>> http://anl4u.com/blog/install-urdu-fonts-in-linux-ubuntu-opensuse/collects many Urdu fonts for downloads if if they have license supports
>>>>>>>> distributing. May be they could be packaged at least as non-free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In firefox: Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & colors:
>>>>>>>>> Advanced
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Font for: try "Other Languages" as there is no Urdu then choose
>>>>>>>>> the font you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me know if it works or we will if we have to report an issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can i use any script or patch to ubuntu that if a browser see
>>>>>>>>>> urdu it should use nafees-font as default. as i browse firefox i cant read
>>>>>>>>>> the text easily as it is not in the standard format.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> im note sure fonts-nafees, the file names are same but the one i
>>>>>>>>>>> have is 286KB where as the one in ubuntu repo is only 86KB.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just read its license which allow modification, merging
>>>>>>>>>>>> & distribution under same license with one exception concerning naming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it same font which is already packaged: fonts-nafees made by
>>>>>>>>>>>> same center on Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does these fonts work well: fonts-nafees & fonts-paktype, both
>>>>>>>>>>>> packaged for Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no experience about kbd layouts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Abdellah Ch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahan thanks alot for the reply, yes thats what i am talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the default keyboard layouts in operating systems and the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fonts are not helpfull, thats what i want that every one should be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> read and write urdu. yes i can send you our official (country) site where
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can, not only find font but keyboard lay out as well, made for windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines. but i can help you porting it to linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the link to font, if it's source is not available I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can work for and make it work again ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can read and download other thing related to urdu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to discuss it in more detail i am available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shabbir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sh.yaron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shabbir!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually investigated some Linux issue about Urdu fonts in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromium and Firefox, apparently the default fonts doesn't work correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you name a single open source font that can be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default for Urdu?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't read Urdu very well but since I can understand Arabic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can see what letters might be wrong or misleading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What else can you tell us about Urdu support in computerized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love open source, here I explain how i want to contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually i am looking for a way to tell wat im upto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I belong to Pakistan her Urdu language is spoken and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understood, many of the ppl want to use web but they cant use it just bcaz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they dont understand english, every thing that is published in urdu here is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the format of images over the internet and you can understand issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a text published as an image over the web, the text takes longer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download, cant search, u cant search for a inside word from google etc. my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish is that we together work for those who want to use the web and use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right in their own language. theres support already included many browsers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and OS but that is not standard, the font is not it has to be to be more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readable. for urdu any time browsed via internet should hv a default font
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is our national font call nastaleeq. this font is used for every news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper in our country and all the official publishing. Please guide how can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you help me further improve the web experience and bring more ppl to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet from countries like us. we can further talk find ways to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is my dream I shall be thankful i guess this is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charity, bring them closer to the world and increase their knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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