<div dir="ltr"><div><div>yes im available any time. im only looking for a calligrapher to find the exact technical values for the fonts, and gather other required information so we dont mess things again.<br><br>:)<br><br>
</div>thank you,<br></div>Shabbir.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sh.yaron@gmail.com" target="_blank">sh.yaron@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Shabbir, I think we should expand our work to other Linux distros, are you up for it?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I'm very much thank full, GOD be with you all. :)<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 10, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 3:49 PM, Sneetsher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sneetsher@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneetsher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Greetings,<br><br>Bug submit for language-selector (Ubuntu)<br><pre><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1153188" target="_blank"><font size="4">https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1153188</font></a><br>
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On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 8:34 PM, Shahar Or <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mightyiampresence@gmail.com" target="_blank">mightyiampresence@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Great conversation. Can anyone who understands the issue file a bug report please? Add the 'rtl' tag to it, subscribe our team and link it here.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from mobile נשלח מנייד</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> 7:49 PM, "Shabbir Ahmed" <<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div dir="ltr">yes right, not just ubuntu but non of the softwares does so, the only way is to use css3 font feature.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 10:40 PM, Sneetsher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sneetsher@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneetsher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just to be clear for me, even after installing Urdu language support in Ubuntu. The Defaults (like fonts in firefox) Does not support well Urdu. The user need to do many changes to fix problems with that.<br>
<br>right? or i am still missing things?<div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 6:33 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">nafeesnaskh is ok, i just made a web site where i my self use CSS3 and download this font for view. but i think you are not getting my intention? is it?<br>
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On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 10:21 PM, Sneetsher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sneetsher@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneetsher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">For font,<br>fonts-nafees (contains only one font, <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/fonts-nafees" target="_blank">http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/fonts-nafees</a>), I have compared it, it is the same as this one with same version: <a href="http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html" target="_blank">http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html</a><br>
<br>Could you please show me a page as an example to test my side too?<br><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/</a> BBC uses CSS3 to use web font instead of installed ones in users desktop.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://font.urduweb.org/" target="_blank">http://font.urduweb.org/</a> & <a href="http://anl4u.com/blog/install-urdu-fonts-in-linux-ubuntu-opensuse/" target="_blank">http://anl4u.com/blog/install-urdu-fonts-in-linux-ubuntu-opensuse/</a> collects many Urdu fonts for downloads if if they have license supports distributing. May be they could be packaged at least as non-free.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 5:04 PM, Sneetsher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sneetsher@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneetsher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">In firefox: Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & colors: Advanced <br><br>Font for: try "Other Languages" as there is no Urdu then choose the font you want.<br><br>Let me know if it works or we will if we have to report an issue.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 4:17 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>can i use any script or patch to ubuntu that if a browser see urdu it should use nafees-font as default. as i browse firefox i cant read the text easily as it is not in the standard format.<br><br></div>
thanks<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 8:13 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">im note sure fonts-nafees, the file names are same but the one i have is 286KB where as the one in ubuntu repo is only 86KB.<br>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 6:24 PM, Sneetsher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sneetsher@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneetsher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<br><br>I have just read its license which allow modification, merging & distribution under same license with one exception concerning naming.<br>
<br>Is it same font which is already packaged: fonts-nafees made by same center on Ubuntu?<br>
Does these fonts work well: fonts-nafees & fonts-paktype, both packaged for Ubuntu?<br><br>I have no experience about kbd layouts.<br><br>Regards,<br>Abdellah Ch.<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 11:49 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>ahan thanks alot for the reply, yes thats what i am talking about the default keyboard layouts in operating systems and the default fonts are not helpfull, thats what i want that every one should be able to read and write urdu. yes i can send you our official (country) site where you can, not only find font but keyboard lay out as well, made for windows machines. but i can help you porting it to linux.<br>
<br><a href="http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html" target="_blank">http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html</a><br>this is the link to font, if it's source is not available I can work for and make it work again ...<br>
<br>you can read and download other thing related to urdu.<br><a href="http://www.crulp.org/software/localization.htm" target="_blank">http://www.crulp.org/software/localization.htm</a><br><br></div>if you want to discuss it in more detail i am available.<br>
<br>thank you,<br></div>Shabbir.<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 1:05 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sh.yaron@gmail.com" target="_blank">sh.yaron@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Shabbir!<br><br></div>I actually investigated some Linux issue about Urdu fonts in Chromium and Firefox, apparently the default fonts doesn't work correctly.<br>
<br></div>Can you name a single open source font that can be the default for Urdu?<br>
<br></div>I can't read Urdu very well but since I can understand Arabic I can see what letters might be wrong or misleading.<br><br></div>What else can you tell us about Urdu support in computerized systems?<br></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Sat, Mar 9, <a href="tel:2013" value="+9722013" target="_blank">2013</a> at 9:59 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shabbir1282@gmail.com" target="_blank">shabbir1282@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br>I love open source, here I explain how i want to contribute. actually i am looking for a way to tell wat im upto.<br><br>I belong to Pakistan her Urdu language is spoken and understood, many of the ppl want to use web but they cant use it just bcaz they dont understand english, every thing that is published in urdu here is in the format of images over the internet and you can understand issues with a text published as an image over the web, the text takes longer to download, cant search, u cant search for a inside word from google etc. my wish is that we together work for those who want to use the web and use it right in their own language. theres support already included many browsers and OS but that is not standard, the font is not it has to be to be more readable. for urdu any time browsed via internet should hv a default font which is our national font call nastaleeq. this font is used for every news paper in our country and all the official publishing. Please guide how can you help me further improve the web experience and bring more ppl to internet from countries like us. we can further talk find ways to move forward.<br>
<br>this is my dream I shall be thankful i guess this is a charity, bring them closer to the world and increase their knowledge.<br><br>thank you,<br></div>
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