Ubuntu-RTL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5

Chris Scaife scaife.chris at gmail.com
Sun Dec 12 16:26:05 GMT 2010


Oops...

I must apologize I don't know how to make my reply appear in the right
place.
In the following my reply starts with the word "lol" and should have been
threaded in response to Usama's post and not merged with it as a new topic.

Sorry for the confusion. I hope to get it right next time.

Kind regards to all,
Chris

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> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:07:19 +0300
> From: Usama Akkad <uahello at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Directionality without prejudice
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> Hi, I've just read Yaron pronunciation of Arabic number and I think it's
> totally false. It's all in a slang or not Arabic.
>
> But you are right that numbers are usually read from right to left.
>
> Lol - well the idea is to accommodate EVERY dialect of EVERY language,
> regardless of what is main stream ;)
> The important issue for me seems to be that Unicode standard is telling the
> whole wide world R2L speakers write numbers back to front!
>
> I was completely ignorant of how other cultures do deal with numbers, but
> IMHO we ALL write them and read them as is appropriate to our traditions
> and
> locale. Thus instead of imposing a directionality on digits and reversing
> their display order for R2L languages IMHO the computer should be told to
> PROCESS and to GENERATE them in the order appropriate for the user's
> locale.
>
> For instance in my own number formatting routines it was easiest to convert
> numeric strings with least significant digit first, but I was working in a
> left to right tradition. Yet I DID NOT insert a right to left embedding
> code
> but actually reversed the string I created so that the stream would contain
> most significant digits before less significant ones.
>
> While I appreciate the phenomenal amount of work that the Unicode
> consortium
> is doing... http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/#Bidirectional_Character_Types
> I do feel they are "barking up the wrong tree" and will NEVER get a good
> solution that way :(
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