[SRU discussion] Renaming the 'Regression Potential' section

[Balint Reczey]

Hi,

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 3:36 PM Corey Bryant <corey.bryant at canonical.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:36 AM Iain Lane <laney at ubuntu.com> wrote:
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>> Hiya,
>>
>> I often come across SRU bugs from developers that seem to treat the
>> Regression Potential section as a place to argue why their upload is not
>> risky and should be accepted. Like
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>>   [ Regression Potential ]
>>   Low. This only changes X Y Z.
>>
>> I'm not going to bother repeating the arguments for why that's wrong. I
>> find the wiki page
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>>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#SRU_Bug_Template
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>> quite clear on what's needed. But I think the message hasn't managed to
>> get through to everybody yet, which to me indicates that we haven't yet
>> achieved a universal culture of critically assessing our own work.
>> Thinking "what if I'm wrong and this update is bad, where might that
>> happen?"

IMO the section name is quite clear and reflects what's needed.
Changing the name just puts an extra burden on people filling those
SRU bugs to change muscle memory, but if the provided content is not
enough/wrong please give feedback about it and do it in a timely
manner. Having filled SRU information in a bug and getting a feedback
one week later after the the upload is put in the queue is extra
frustrating.
There is a vanguard every day for SRU uploads thus please process each
upload the next business day the latest and give feedback if the
upload can't be accepted either due to insufficient filling of the SRU
template or due to problems with the upload itself.

Thanks,
Balint

>> My *straw man* proposal is to rename the section to something like
>> 'Where problems could occur' or something more explicit than what we
>> currently have.
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> I think renaming this section is a good idea. I tend to read the sections as "What is the [ Impact ]?", "What is the [ Test Case ]?", "What is the [ Regression Potential ]?".
> So a response of "Low. This only changes X Y Z." seems to answer that question even if that's not what's intended.
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> Maybe [ Regression Impact ] or [ Regression Analysis ]?
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> "What is the [ Regression Impact ]?"
> "What is the [ Regression Analysis ]?"
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> It's a tough one to reduce into 2 words.
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> Corey
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>>
>> This is obviously partly/mostly a problem that the expectations haven't
>> gotten through to people, so while I think we should rename, any change
>> will need to be communicated so that people know about it and then
>> enforced by the SRU team for a little while.
>>
>> Thoughts welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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