Beta 1

Micah Gersten micahg at
Mon Sep 2 22:38:29 UTC 2013

On 09/02/2013 05:12 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi,
> I'd like to register that while my self and Laney have not seen eye 
> tio eye, his attempt of building the Beta 1's for our community teams 
> has been a complete and utter disaster.
> <rant>
>  The release team are trying to pick up the pieces and manually spin 
> ISO's. The cut off date is Thursday, we are now on Tuesday with NO 
> stable ISO. For heavens sake, out of all the community who wanted a 
> beta 1... lubuntu was the only one there and told it would be re-spun.
> This is a disgraceful way to treat testers. Yes, those people who 
> actually check systems work.
> I can be a royal PITA for shouting up what testers let me know, but 
> not having  a beta 1 - with no idea when it will arrive and the final; 
> insult of the person "Laney" to vanish from the discussion explains 
> one simple thing... He's not up to the job of being pro-active for 
> issues that occur. Instead the -release team gathered together to do 
> what they could.
> Laney, in charge?!!! Where was he?
> </end rant>
To quote the original mail [1]:
"Also let us know when you would like automatic image builds stopped, 
otherwise the assumption is Monday evening UK time."

The window from Thursday to today was meant to stabilize ISOs after the 
freeze.  I see no evidence on this list that you wanted Beta ISOs any 
sooner than the rest of the flavors.

Release candidates for Betas are usually available sometime on Tuesday 
of release week as are the alphas.  The main difference with beta is 
there are a few days to stabilize ISOs without a lot of churn in the 
archive.   AFAIK, this has not changed in years.

Laney stopped the dailies and spun up ISOs as he said he would, warned 
that he wouldn't be around later, and said that people can respin if 
needed. [2]

Chastising someone for stepping away when it's late evening for them [2] 
(close to 8PM in this case when the interaction occured, though, really, 
it's not ok at any time).  There are polite ways to address 
disagreements and this certainly isn't one of them.

To quote the CoC [3]:


            Be respectful

    Disagreement is no excuse for poor manners. We work together to
    resolve conflict, assume good intentions and do our best to act in
    an empathic fashion. We don't allow frustration to turn into a
    personal attack. A community where people feel uncomfortable or
    threatened is not a productive one.

I think that a public apology is in order here.

Micah Gersten
Ubuntu Core Dev and Ubuntu Membership Board member

and continues of and on until about 19:00
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