Wiki Map and how to find child pages

Thu May 21 00:08:26 UTC 2015

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Hi Nicholas and everyone else,
>
>
Hi again,

> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm late to the thread and moinmoin wiki is not my forte. I've been
>> blessed
>> with some help from others in the community to arrive where we are today.
>> SO, that said, is there a way to automagically generate an index for our
>> pages and keep it up to date? If yes, then consider me in favor. Also
>> consider me as not helpful in making this happen besides cheerleading
>> those
>> with knowledge!
>>
>
> I will never claim to be an expert but when it comes to Ubuntu Wiki pages,
> I was the one who built Ubuntu GNOME Wiki area from scratch. When I joined
> Ubuntu GNOME in July 2013, we had only one page + the release notes. Today,
> we have this:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/WikiMap
>
> And, that Wiki Map was generated manually, link by link. Because all the
> pages you see except one were created by me. So, I know each and every page
> and as you see, it has a tree view as well.
>
> I have no idea whether we can generate that automatically or not? perhaps
> there is a way?! I don't know. For Ubuntu GNOME, it has been done manually
> because we had only one page 2 years ago.
>
> If there is a way to do that automatically for Ubuntu Quality, it would be
> great :)
>
> If someone could explain how can we find the Wiki Pages (ALL of them) for
> Ubuntu Quality, it is also helpful, even though we have to do the index
> manually.
>
> As of now, I can not tell where are the pages for Ubuntu Quality because
> these pages lack some basic features like "go back link". We should NOT
> expect everyone to hit "Back" on the browser and there SHOULD be a "go back
> link" IMHO. But I understand, that is just my opinion and YMMV.
>
> Let me know if you guys need some help :)
>
> Not that I have time to do anything extra at this point, to be honest but
> I can definitely share some of what I have/know.
>
>
I forgot to add:

I have created a Wiki Map for Lubuntu before stepping down and leaving the
community (Lubuntu):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/WikiMap

But that was never complete. There are some other pages which are not
listed. Lubuntu has a problem that is not yet fixed. It has duplicate pages
with different information sometimes.

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The index idea was inspired by the One Stop Concept which has started 4
years ago with a thread I have created called: Lubuntu One Stop Thread.
That thread was closed and converted to a Wiki Page:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LubuntuLinks

Which is semi-dead or outdated as no one is updating it any more.

The other one was created for Ubuntu GNOME:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage

But now, I have decided to drop the idea of the One Stop Shop concept and
replace it with something called: Central Home Page (CHP):

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME

What is that?

Each and every 'main' tab will have a CHP (Central Home Page) where you can
navigate from to any other sub-page, AKA child page. And, the one and only
chance you lose a page is when you do not add it to:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/WikiMap

That is why, whenever I or someone else in Ubuntu GNOME Team create any
page, the first thing we do is adding it to:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/WikiMap

The combination of CHP + Index is amazing IMHO.

Sadly, some Ubuntu documentation or pages are more confusing than being
helpful. But that is a bit of different topic. Let's focus on the Ubuntu
Quality pages for now :)

The only thing I could promise is whenever I find a chance to improve the
pages of Ubuntu Quality, I will do it right away ;)
But the index page is really important if we really want to keep track of
all the pages :)

Please, do not tell me to 'search' for a page. I for one have no time to
waste on searching. NOT because I am lazy, but because it does not make
sense to search for the main and the sub-pages.

Oh, I noticed:

<<Navigation(children,1)>>

here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf

I wonder if this is the automatic approach? I don't think so because there
is no index, it is just the sub-pages will be listed as far as I can tell.
Someone else might have better understanding or idea than myself :)

Edit:
I have just applied:
<<Navigation(children,1)>>

To one of Ubuntu GNOME pages:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing

Without saving the code, just preview.

And, it will list the sub-pages under:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing
But will not list the pages under
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME

In another word, I don't think:
<<Navigation(children,1)>>

Is the way to generate an index for all the pages.

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