Please, review this Bugs Importances draft

[Thomas Ward]

Thanks for quoting an email sent directly to you, intentionally not
CC'd to the list, onto the list publicly.  I sent it to you directly
intentionally.  Glad you took my direct-to-you email and made it
public, thanks for that.

(You've lost points with me.)

------
Thomas



On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella
<es20490446e at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thomas Ward:
>>
>> BUT they do not add fluff images or unnecessary images.  They add
>> what's necessary.
>
>
> Not true. Check that they purposely add images that have no explanatory
> intention. I have already done, just in case I was mistaken.
>
> In fact my inspiration had been those books, not the Internet. And lately
> confirmed by common social media advice.
>
>
> Alberto Salvia Novella:
>> This is a topic I have been thinking for a while, and concluded I had
>> some vices. Probably Elfy has thought that we were about to fall in
>> those again, but I have at present abandoned the ideas that let to
>> them.
>
> Thomas Ward:
>> Apparently you haven't.  To quote you in your prior email in which i
>> said that...
>
> Elfy:
>> All it says to me is that Alberto has stopped littering mailing list
>> posts with emojii's and is now littering wiki pages with images.
>
> Alberto Salvia Novella:
>> Non-logic, evasive and manipulative speaking.
>
> The answer is this emotional manipulation was very dangerous to the
> conversation and needed to be spotted. Since the language was very
> inappropriate I chose clarity over diplomacy, as anything else would had
> made the conversation to fall into the manipulation; or worse, into the idea
> I deserve being treated like that.
>
>
> Thomas Ward:
>> NOBODY likes public threads getting dirty and attacking of others.
>> This isn't the first time I've observed this coming from you two, and
>> it's likely to not be the last.
>
> As I said, I'm over getting that personal.
>
>
> Thomas Ward:
>> You've made the decision yourself on your own to improve the
>> documentation, and that's fine.
>
> No, the decisions I have made had been over a proposal; and they are only
> meant to go into the documentation after there's polishing and consensus
> over them. The goal had been to have a prototype, where approaches could be
> tested just in time.
>
>
> Thomas Ward:
>> You may be trying to 'improve' it, but you're not accepting the
>> criticism that you're asking for from the community, NOR are you
>> understanding the points I'm trying to make with regards to visual
>> engagement in posts (whether it be wikis, or anything else).
>
> So why I'm writing now in plain text only?
>
> The only two suggestions that I have not implemented from all the amount I
> have received had been:
>
>  - Not using pictographs in wiki-pages, just because I have not decided on
> it yet; as probably would be a better moment to do when Utopic is released
> and pictographs are supported by default in Ubuntu.
>
>  - Not using some kinds of images in wiki-pages, as we have just started the
> conversation!
>
> Even the redaction style in wiki-pages is the way people asked to be.
>
>
> Thomas Ward:
>> To that end, you're not accepting the criticism that multiple users
>> currently do not agree with some of the images used - mainly that
>> you're adding fluff.
>
> Converting documentation into a playground is a sift, and people can be
> resistant to that. So specifically in this regard I want to make sure points
> of view are based on deliberation rather than rejection by default of
> unknown approaches.
>
> If you want to know, I have no special faith on using images at the bottom
> of pages. What I'm mostly cautious is that small decision being taken away
> by the status quo, as it defines a style of decision talking itself.
>
> The status quo of learning is text, the same as the status quo of Unix is
> "man". It doesn't mean these are bad, but they are the default.
>
>
> Thomas Ward:
>> Why are you posting this on the QA list instead of the bugsquad list?
>
> Because I thought the Bug-Squad team had joined the Quality team a long time
> ago, and was listed in Launchpad just for historical reasons. So is this a
> mistake?
>
>
> Good night.
>
>
>
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