A proposal to combine quality and bugsquad teams

[Matthew Fischer]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert
<ubuntu at treblig.org>wrote:

> * Nicholas Skaggs (nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > To help with this I've created a series of roles for the quality
> > community; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/. For the tester
> > role, I've incorporated bugsquad activities in addition to the
> > traditional activities a QA team member could partake in. I feel
> > like the listed 'tester' role could be assumed by anyone today in
> > the bugsquad, but please correct me if I am wrong. We can certainly
> > define an additional role if it makes sense.
>
> I'm not 100% sure it's right to combine the two parts into the tester
> role; while it's true that I tend to run the development release,
> as a bug-squader I primarily triage and don't test.
> Other than one or two dev installs as part of a cycle, I'll tend
> to only test things in bugs being triaged for repeatability/repeatability
> on the latest dev.
>
> > I would like everyone's feedback before I think too long about the
> > the implementation details. Simply put, as a quality team we need to
> > know how to be good bug reporters. And as testers we have the skills
> > needed to triage and verify bugs and fixes. I think it makes sense
> > to utilize the skills both teams posess and combine them as part of
> > the quality community.
>
> Yes, I think it makes sense to combine them; in particular from triaging
> a lot of bugs you do tend to get a feel for things that might need
> more testing.  Also I'm assuming where a test set is known of it would
> be good for triagers to help spot test escapes.
>
> Dave


I'll second what's been said here by Dave. Combining the teams is a good
idea. The Bug Squad team could benefit from having more active management.
Howver, the Tester role needs to be expanded or perhaps a new role added.
As Dave said, people on the Bug Squad do not always run dev releases. Many
are still on precise, triaging bugs there. And I think bug triage should be
called out as a separate activity.
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