Mir instead of Xorg-server

Sun Jun 30 19:08:44 UTC 2013

Tell us more about your GPU not working with 13.04.

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Samuel Gabbay <samuelgabbay1 at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Because my graphics dont work with 13.04:(
>
> Envoyé de mon iPod
>
> Le 2013-06-30 à 02:48 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" <saqman2060 at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> I hope it does.
>
> Here is what I read on,
> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29
> ,
>
> "For 13.10 we plan on delivering Mir by default in Ubuntu Desktop with
> XMir (an implementation of X running on Mir) and our current Unity 7
> codebase (the same Unity codebase that is currently in the Ubuntu 13.10
> development release).
>
> This will be enabled for graphics hardware with Open Source drivers
> supported by Mir (primarily Intel, Nouveau). For binary graphics drivers
> (e.g. many NVidia and ATI cards) we will fallback to the normal X server
> that we usually ship. This will mean that all users are well served in
> Ubuntu 13.10."
>
>
> This means, starting with 13.10, ubuntu will ship XMir for GPUs that can
> use open source drivers supported by Mir. By any chance your GPU needs its
> proprietary drivers, then you can rollback to X.
>
>
> Istimsak Abdulbasir
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Samuel Gabbay <samuelgabbay1 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Make sure it works for mobility radeon 4250 please
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPod
>>
>> Le 2013-06-30 à 02:34 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" <saqman2060 at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers.
>> Hopefully, those will supported in the near future.
>>
>> What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I
>> have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will
>> not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will
>> rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir.
>>
>> Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn.
>>
>> Istimsak Abdulbasir
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think you're missing the point.  The drivers in question are
>>> proprietary.
>>> The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system
>>> vendors, so
>>> until they develop and release the code, there won't be any.  Canonical
>>> has
>>> announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support,
>>> but
>>> they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Scott K
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
>>> > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of
>>> XMir
>>> > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X
>>> > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir
>>> > should have optimal support for most GPUs.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne
>>> > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29
>>> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman
>>> <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
>>> > > Canonical have said they expect such support.  I haven't seen any
>>> vendor
>>> > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least
>>> > > somewhat
>>> > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered.
>>> > >
>>> > > Scott K
>>> > >
>>> > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>>> > > > Hello Istimsak,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available
>>> for
>>> > > > them
>>> > > > by 14.04 LTS.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>>> > > > (K)ubuntu member
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir <saqman2060 at gmail.com>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video
>>> > >
>>> > > drivers",
>>> > >
>>> > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the
>>> > >
>>> > > proprietary
>>> > >
>>> > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman
>>> > >
>>> > > <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
>>> > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so
>>> anyone
>>> > > > >> with
>>> > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg.  Additionally, some of the
>>> other
>>> > > > >> flavors are
>>> > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04
>>> > >
>>> > > hardware
>>> > >
>>> > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Scott K
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will
>>> > >
>>> > > rollback
>>> > >
>>> > > > >> to
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> > xorg.
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" <
>>> adriangoodyer at gmail.com>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > >> > > A
>>> > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir
>>> and if
>>> > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X.
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would
>>> also be
>>> > > > >> > > available?
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > > Ade.
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir <
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> saqman2060 at gmail.com
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will
>>> both
>>> > > > >> > >> Mir
>>> > > > >> > >> and
>>> > > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy?
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir
>>> > > > >> > >>
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