Mir instead of Xorg-server

Sun Jun 30 18:48:47 UTC 2013

I hope it does.

Here is what I read on,
http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29
,

"For 13.10 we plan on delivering Mir by default in Ubuntu Desktop with XMir
(an implementation of X running on Mir) and our current Unity 7 codebase
(the same Unity codebase that is currently in the Ubuntu 13.10 development
release).

This will be enabled for graphics hardware with Open Source drivers
supported by Mir (primarily Intel, Nouveau). For binary graphics drivers
(e.g. many NVidia and ATI cards) we will fallback to the normal X server
that we usually ship. This will mean that all users are well served in
Ubuntu 13.10."

This means, starting with 13.10, ubuntu will ship XMir for GPUs that can
use open source drivers supported by Mir. By any chance your GPU needs its
proprietary drivers, then you can rollback to X.

Istimsak Abdulbasir

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Samuel Gabbay <samuelgabbay1 at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Make sure it works for mobility radeon 4250 please
>
> Envoyé de mon iPod
>
> Le 2013-06-30 à 02:34 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" <saqman2060 at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers.
> Hopefully, those will supported in the near future.
>
> What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I
> have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will
> not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will
> rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir.
>
> Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn.
>
> Istimsak Abdulbasir
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
>
>> I think you're missing the point.  The drivers in question are
>> proprietary.
>> The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system
>> vendors, so
>> until they develop and release the code, there won't be any.  Canonical
>> has
>> announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support,
>> but
>> they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do
>> that.
>>
>> Scott K
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
>> > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of
>> XMir
>> > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X
>> > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir
>> > should have optimal support for most GPUs.
>> >
>> >
>> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne
>> > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29
>> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman
>> <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
>> > > Canonical have said they expect such support.  I haven't seen any
>> vendor
>> > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least
>> > > somewhat
>> > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered.
>> > >
>> > > Scott K
>> > >
>> > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me.
>> > >
>> > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>> > > > Hello Istimsak,
>> > > >
>> > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for
>> > > > them
>> > > > by 14.04 LTS.
>> > > >
>> > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>> > > > (K)ubuntu member
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir <saqman2060 at gmail.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video
>> > >
>> > > drivers",
>> > >
>> > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the
>> > >
>> > > proprietary
>> > >
>> > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman
>> > >
>> > > <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:
>> > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so
>> anyone
>> > > > >> with
>> > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg.  Additionally, some of the
>> other
>> > > > >> flavors are
>> > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04
>> > >
>> > > hardware
>> > >
>> > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Scott K
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
>> > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will
>> > >
>> > > rollback
>> > >
>> > > > >> to
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > xorg.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" <
>> adriangoodyer at gmail.com>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > A
>> > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir
>> and if
>> > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would
>> also be
>> > > > >> > > available?
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > Ade.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir <
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> saqman2060 at gmail.com
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will
>> both
>> > > > >> > >> Mir
>> > > > >> > >> and
>> > > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy?
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir
>> > > > >> > >>
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