Xubuntu-testing team status

Stéphane Graber stgraber at ubuntu.com
Tue Jul 15 19:43:10 UTC 2008

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Jim Campbell wrote:
> Hi All,
> I wanted to write concerning Xubuntu's QA and testing efforts.  We
> currently have a Xubuntu Testing team on Launchpad [1], but I don't
> think it is being leveraged too well.  For the most part, it seems like
> people sign up for the team, but they aren't engaged by anyone as far as
> being on a list-serve or knowing who to contact with questions.  And I
> don't think that they are being told what "testing" may actually entail,
> and may just see testing as running the development version of Xubuntu
> and occasionally filing bugs.  The testing wiki has some sections that
> are out of date, too, though Dave Morley has updated portions of it.
> Partly for these reasons, I had previously proposed eliminating the
> xubuntu-testers team and migrating those members over to the regular
> Ubuntu QA/testing teams, but didn't reach much of consensus on the
> matter.  I thought that was a good idea, based on knowing that sometimes
> testers can help out with multiple tests (e.g., both Kubuntu and Xubuntu
> tests), and that having one primary team would keep everyone up to date
> on processes and best-practices.  Ubuntu QA has come a long way in the
> past two years.  :)  Things change quickly, and it would be difficult
> (and likely a waste of time) to try and keep the Xubuntu testing wiki up
> to date with the changes on the Ubuntu QA/Testing wiki.... 
> Now that Ubuntu QA has its own mailing list, and seems to be undergoing
> some changes, I thought I'd bring this up again.  Would migrating
> xubuntu-testers over to ubuntu-qa (in whatever way would work for you
> all) be a good idea?  What do you think would work best for you?  I
> would of course also be open someone from the Ubuntu QA team leading-up
> the Xubuntu testing  efforts.
> Thanks very much for your consideration,
> Jim
> jwcampbell at ubuntu.com <mailto:jwcampbell at ubuntu.com>

Hi Jim,

I personally don't think that it's of any use to have one testing team
for each derivatives and I think we are a lot more efficient working all
together sharing the testcases near release time. So I'm all for getting
rid of xubuntu-testing and moving those users to another team.

Now comes the question of what team is best, I'd personally suggest the
current members of xubuntu-testing to move to ubuntu-testing.
ubuntu-testing contains everyone interested in testing Ubuntu, it's sort
of the equivalent of the ubuntu-bugsquad for package and distribution

ubuntu-qa is more for people with experience and having done significant
contribution to Ubuntu QA. I would prefer to see Xubuntu testers first
join ubuntu-testing and then when they feel they contributed enough to
Ubuntu's QA effort, email this list and ask for ubuntu-qa membership.

Improving the way we handle ISO testing approaching release time is
something we'll need to do in the very short future as it's proven to be
not enough efficient in the past (Intrepid's alphas are good example,
Hardy final too). I hope we'll work on that soon.

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