connecting power users to their tools

[Paul Hoell]

I think install-time download of the power tools could be done further down
the road.
There are some steps that need to be done before that, and we shouldn't rush
into this. For now it's necessary to get the tools to a place we can work
with function-wise. As long as they're not thoroughly tested and prove to be
stable, i think installing them at install time might be a tad overpowering
for most users.
We talk about power-users here, so installing via meta-package oder just a
simple apt-get line for now should really be enough. It would also make it
much less likely that an inexperienced user stumbles onto them, when they're
still in a state where there is no easy way to revert changes and little to
no safeguards to what you can do to your system.

To collect my thoughts, i think an integration with the installer shouldn't
be done before next LTS+1, so there is time to refine the tools and get a
suggested workflow in order.

greets
Paul
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2011/5/21 Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug at gmail.com>

> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Robert Potter <rpotter at zoncko.com> wrote:
> > It will be nice if power users have a trusted location to look up and
> find
> > tools that assist them.  But they still will have to invest the time to
> find
> > and install those tools.
> > Ubuntu currently offers the option to install multi-media package during
> > install and with an internet connection downloads updates in the back
> > ground.  The server edition allows the user to select packages to be
> > installed during installation.  So, as we identify key tools such as
> Ubuntu
> > Tweak, perhaps Canonical could offer a back ground download/install
> option
> > for a few of these key tools.  For those of us that just want our system
> to
> > work but still would like the power & tools to tweak, I think it would be
> > nice to simply request the tools during install.
> > Not sure how practical or desired it is by others, but just a thought I
> had.
>
> Nice thought, but then there might be other groups of users who would
> like to have a "gamer" option and so on. I do not think that this is a
> feasible approach without opening a can of worms.
>
> I would rather suggest to create a meta package, which then installs
> these tools - power users should not have a problem with typing
>
> sudo apt-get install power-user-tools
>
> which then would download and install a suite of selected packages.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rainer
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