[ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu developer application

Tue May 8 23:01:35 UTC 2012

Thanks Daviey! And all this time I thought the UK was 7 hours ahead :)

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Dave Walker <DaveWalker at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apologies for the belated reply..  I thoroughly endorse this
> application from Thomas.  He's been a long term contributor, and i'd
> like to welcome him into ~mythbuntu-dev.
>
> Thanks Thomas!
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dave Walker
>
> On 06/04/12 20:52, Thomas Mashos wrote:
>> Still waiting on a +1 from Daviey
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Thomas Mashos
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Mario,
>>>
>>> I know that mythbuntu-dev won't remove the red tape. It is a little
>>> frustrating though that once my software makes it into the archive,
>>> I can no
>>> longer write code and commit directly to the branch (since it is
>>> then owned
>>> by mythbuntu-dev)
>>>
>>> I'll continue to get my packages into the archive. I was just a
>>> little
>>> frustrated when I was doing that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Mario Limonciello
>>> <superm1 at ubuntu.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> I agree, it's easy to get discouraged when trying to get new
>>>> software into
>>>> the Ubuntu repositories because of how much human subjectivity is
>>>> involved
>>>> as it's reviewed before accepting into the archive.  Please keep
>>>> in mind
>>>> becoming a developer with upload rights doesn't suddenly remove
>>>> that red
>>>> tape.  Code review is a healthy procedure that I think should
>>>> continue to
>>>> exists.  I think it would be good for you to help identify where
>>>> some of
>>>> those deficiencies that you encountered with the process for new
>>>> packages
>>>> were and specifically why the automated tools (revu, lintian, etc)
>>>> weren't
>>>> able to triage them ahead of time.  The more that the automated
>>>> tools grow,
>>>> the less human subjectivity can play into review.
>>>>
>>>> PPAs are a useful tool, but not having red tape and peer review is
>>>> a
>>>> double edged sword.  Uploading to a PPA that people use on their
>>>> stable
>>>> boxes has a lot more potential to break dozens of boxes.  We've
>>>> had these
>>>> types of problems with the auto-builds mythtv branches in the past
>>>> with
>>>> botched patches, and need to keep it to a minimum.  This is
>>>> exactly why the
>>>> Ubuntu SRU process exists.  So I would like you to continue with
>>>> any new
>>>> software in the Ubuntu archive even if it ends up being
>>>> troublesome to
>>>> initially get accepted.
>>>>
>>>> I think that overall you've shown a lot of growth from the first
>>>> Mythbuntu
>>>> packages that you worked on to the most recent that i've reviewed
>>>> (mythbuntu-bare) and seem to have a good concept of how package
>>>> maintenance
>>>> works with stuff actually in the Ubuntu archive during the
>>>> development
>>>> phases.  You take feature freeze seriously and attempt to get all
>>>> of your
>>>> work done in time for the freeze.
>>>>
>>>> Right now I don't think any of the stuff specific to the Mythbuntu
>>>> package
>>>> set fits with Debian because it's all so tightly wrapped around
>>>> MythTV which
>>>> isn't yet in Debian.  There is however an ongoing effort for
>>>> MythTV
>>>> inclusion in Debian.  When that happens, I would like to see you
>>>> explore
>>>> moving the packages that you've written and maintain in Ubuntu
>>>> into Debian
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> So as long as you can continue to work directly in the archive
>>>> even for
>>>> NEW packages, I think mythbuntu-dev is a good fit for you.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 13:38, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Name: Thomas Mashos
>>>>> Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/~tgm4883
>>>>>
>>>>> Who I am: A Mythbuntu developer that apparently doesn't have
>>>>> access to
>>>>> his own software.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Ubuntu Story: I got into Mythbuntu when it was being founded,
>>>>> which
>>>>> was April 2007. At that point I didn't know much about creating
>>>>> software,
>>>>> but was willing to help document things and triage bugs. Through
>>>>> the support
>>>>> of Mario Limonciello and Daviey Walker, I am now able to
>>>>> contribute in more
>>>>> of a development role.
>>>>>
>>>>> Areas of work: I'm the creator or mythbuntu-bare,
>>>>> mythbuntu-repos, and
>>>>> mythbuntu-log-grabber. I've written documentation, triaged bugs,
>>>>> submitted
>>>>> patches, reproduced issues, and assisted in distributing
>>>>> Mythbuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Things I could do better: I could submit software for inclusion
>>>>> into
>>>>> Debian, rather that deal with attempting to get my software that
>>>>> was written
>>>>> specifically for Mythbuntu into the Ubuntu archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plans for the future: To continue to patch my software that is
>>>>> already in
>>>>> the archive and use PPA's for everything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Examples of my work: See Mythbuntu-bare, mythbuntu-repos,
>>>>> mythbuntu-log-grabber.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I like least in Ubuntu: The red tape required to get things
>>>>> into the
>>>>> repositories. How there always seems to be one more hoop to jump
>>>>> through. An
>>>>> attempt in making it easier for the Mythbuntu team to patch
>>>>> software that we
>>>>> are responsible for has left me without the ability to commit
>>>>> anything to my
>>>>> Mythbuntu bzr branches.
>>>>>
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>>>>
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