[ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu developer application

[Dave Walker]

Hi,

Apologies for the belated reply..  I thoroughly endorse this
application from Thomas.  He's been a long term contributor, and i'd
like to welcome him into ~mythbuntu-dev.

Thanks Thomas!

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker

On 06/04/12 20:52, Thomas Mashos wrote:
> Still waiting on a +1 from Daviey
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Mashos
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com>
> wrote:
>> Mario,
>>
>> I know that mythbuntu-dev won't remove the red tape. It is a little
>> frustrating though that once my software makes it into the archive,
>> I can no
>> longer write code and commit directly to the branch (since it is
>> then owned
>> by mythbuntu-dev)
>>
>> I'll continue to get my packages into the archive. I was just a
>> little
>> frustrated when I was doing that.
>>
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Mario Limonciello
>> <superm1 at ubuntu.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Thomas,
>>>
>>> I agree, it's easy to get discouraged when trying to get new
>>> software into
>>> the Ubuntu repositories because of how much human subjectivity is
>>> involved
>>> as it's reviewed before accepting into the archive.  Please keep
>>> in mind
>>> becoming a developer with upload rights doesn't suddenly remove
>>> that red
>>> tape.  Code review is a healthy procedure that I think should
>>> continue to
>>> exists.  I think it would be good for you to help identify where
>>> some of
>>> those deficiencies that you encountered with the process for new
>>> packages
>>> were and specifically why the automated tools (revu, lintian, etc)
>>> weren't
>>> able to triage them ahead of time.  The more that the automated
>>> tools grow,
>>> the less human subjectivity can play into review.
>>>
>>> PPAs are a useful tool, but not having red tape and peer review is
>>> a
>>> double edged sword.  Uploading to a PPA that people use on their
>>> stable
>>> boxes has a lot more potential to break dozens of boxes.  We've
>>> had these
>>> types of problems with the auto-builds mythtv branches in the past
>>> with
>>> botched patches, and need to keep it to a minimum.  This is
>>> exactly why the
>>> Ubuntu SRU process exists.  So I would like you to continue with
>>> any new
>>> software in the Ubuntu archive even if it ends up being
>>> troublesome to
>>> initially get accepted.
>>>
>>> I think that overall you've shown a lot of growth from the first
>>> Mythbuntu
>>> packages that you worked on to the most recent that i've reviewed
>>> (mythbuntu-bare) and seem to have a good concept of how package
>>> maintenance
>>> works with stuff actually in the Ubuntu archive during the
>>> development
>>> phases.  You take feature freeze seriously and attempt to get all
>>> of your
>>> work done in time for the freeze.
>>>
>>> Right now I don't think any of the stuff specific to the Mythbuntu
>>> package
>>> set fits with Debian because it's all so tightly wrapped around
>>> MythTV which
>>> isn't yet in Debian.  There is however an ongoing effort for
>>> MythTV
>>> inclusion in Debian.  When that happens, I would like to see you
>>> explore
>>> moving the packages that you've written and maintain in Ubuntu
>>> into Debian
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> So as long as you can continue to work directly in the archive
>>> even for
>>> NEW packages, I think mythbuntu-dev is a good fit for you.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 13:38, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Name: Thomas Mashos
>>>> Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/~tgm4883
>>>>
>>>> Who I am: A Mythbuntu developer that apparently doesn't have
>>>> access to
>>>> his own software.
>>>>
>>>> My Ubuntu Story: I got into Mythbuntu when it was being founded,
>>>> which
>>>> was April 2007. At that point I didn't know much about creating
>>>> software,
>>>> but was willing to help document things and triage bugs. Through
>>>> the support
>>>> of Mario Limonciello and Daviey Walker, I am now able to
>>>> contribute in more
>>>> of a development role.
>>>>
>>>> Areas of work: I'm the creator or mythbuntu-bare,
>>>> mythbuntu-repos, and
>>>> mythbuntu-log-grabber. I've written documentation, triaged bugs,
>>>> submitted
>>>> patches, reproduced issues, and assisted in distributing
>>>> Mythbuntu.
>>>>
>>>> Things I could do better: I could submit software for inclusion
>>>> into
>>>> Debian, rather that deal with attempting to get my software that
>>>> was written
>>>> specifically for Mythbuntu into the Ubuntu archives.
>>>>
>>>> Plans for the future: To continue to patch my software that is
>>>> already in
>>>> the archive and use PPA's for everything else.
>>>>
>>>> Examples of my work: See Mythbuntu-bare, mythbuntu-repos,
>>>> mythbuntu-log-grabber.
>>>>
>>>> What I like least in Ubuntu: The red tape required to get things
>>>> into the
>>>> repositories. How there always seems to be one more hoop to jump
>>>> through. An
>>>> attempt in making it easier for the Mythbuntu team to patch
>>>> software that we
>>>> are responsible for has left me without the ability to commit
>>>> anything to my
>>>> Mythbuntu bzr branches.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Mashos