[ubuntu-my] First Malaysian OS?

zarul shahrin zarulshahrin at gmail.com
Thu Mar 10 08:29:59 UTC 2011


Well written Haris.

I think all these speculations could only happen because they were not being
very open about it. Nobody is trying to bring them or their business down
but as we know, people have been abusing OSS to get funding from .gov in the
past and then disappeared.

I think many people are just being worried that the history will repeat
itself and the funding goes to the wrong group when it can be used to fund
many other groups which have already been working hard to bring changes. Be
open about this and they will find a lot more people supporting them.

I personally disagree with how they decided to name their distro, "Sistem
Operasi Pertama Malaysia". This for me is very deceiving especially for
those who are non-techie who might think this is the "first" OS created by
"Malaysian". Also, the fact that there is no way I can download the .ISO
made me wonder why they are not being open about it.

If they are making money through support services, why worry then? Unless
they have developed something proprietary that comes with the distro that
they don't want to make it public, why hide it? Just because they are
allowed to do? If that's the case, don't be angry if people start
questioning or raising doubt about their business.


Best Regards,

Zarul Shahrin



On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalaysia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> All the issues have highlighted to them and they do follow our
> discussion in OSDC.my mailing list and I believe in this list also.
> They do acknowledge the issues that our friends (me, fazli,
> Sharuzzaman, Redzuan and others) highlight in mailing list like
> OSDC.my and Ubuntu-my and they openly willing to learn from community.
>
> I believe, they problem start with the nature of local OSS community
> that we don't have one single official reference community or
> organisation that they can refer and get advice how they should go
> about it. We really put them in the dark who to refer and what step
> need to be taken. Tiba-tiba aje kita sudah fire mereka.
>
> To be fair, we need to open up and lets them explain. If  in our
> opinions they do its wrongly lets us guide and advice them. By doing
> offensive remarks, its will be negative presumptive to us the OSS
> community and we may hinder them to progress in correct way.
>
> OSS licenses need laywer that can understand it correctly and advice
> them and us, how this should work. In Malaysia, we don't have that
> many that can advice us. We need a proven case in Malaysia to get this
> working in protecting the OSS in Malaysia.
>
> Next steps :-
>
> A Inter Distros workshop will be held on 26 March 2011 at
> HackerspaceKL. I have invite them verbally and will do so with email.
>
> Myself in contact with their lawyer to improved the understanding of
> the OSS license and to know what they understand about OSS license.
> Myself not a lawyer and GPL can be understand in many ways.
>
> This is a start, lets we work together as community to guide them.
> This will be benchmark for us how to work with businesses and
> Government agencies
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM, starconsultancy
> <f.van.der.star at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > As I was you I would not make a great issue out of this!
> >
> > I think this will not  B O O M  Malaysia.
> >
> > To my perspective for (forking, (customized) redistributing))
> GPL-software
> > no need to refer
> > to copywriting. But.......maybe I am wrong.
> >
> > Myself I use SQL-Ledger on website and in this case it is obligatory I
> > mention the source
> > and its related website.
> >
> > Actually I see now only positive sides of this. It is moving in Malaysia
> and
> > that is important!!
> >
> > So I go to kopi tam and relax.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Frans van der Star
> >
>
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