[ubuntu-my] Talent search is on for cybersecurity students

Tue Jul 28 18:58:57 BST 2009

Indeed you are right Rafe and perhaps I went a little overboard with
the stereotyping. There are intelligent ones but as Donald said, there
are far in between and are made to stay quiet by buried with
mind-numbing routines.

I too have seen this. People who were supposed to be trained and
certified to be IT experts ended up confused when something as simple
as DNS Name resolution issues stumps them while the other F-Grade who
has an idea is assigned to do some dumb minute-taking.

There is an over-reliance on certification and paper qualifications
over skills. That needs to change.

Of course I will be happy to help in any way I can. But so far there
are no takers even to give them free tutorials on line over the chat
channels or over meetups.

We can offer, but are there takers if it doesn't involve free food? Or
a certificate of attendance? For the sake of all, I do wish I am very
wrong.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Rafe Azsnal Ropee
Adman<rafe at mdec.com.my> wrote:
> Bro, is kind of not fair to put a statements like that. Not all GOV official
> are as what you said. You are one of those few that have first hand
> experience and I'm sure within that time you have encounter those that are
> very talented right? There are so many issue that limit their capability to
> grow further. Rather that point the  finger at them why not embrace and try
> to make changes. We're gearing up to the next 5 years plan let work together
> and try to fill the gap any gap that we can. So all can benefits from it.
>
> Rafe
> MDeC, Cyberjaya
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BRIAN RITCHIE <esqbrianritchie at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:24 PM
> To: Malaysian Team Mailing List <ubuntu-my at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-my] Talent search is on for cybersecurity students
>
> Greetings Eric,
>
>   Thanks for the info. I am curious to know if you had any encounters with
> Gov officials in this area - IT Sec in specific or IT in general. Was there
> any discussion prior to this involving them and did you get a chance to
> assess them in the above mentioned areas. I am curious to know to ensure
> both Haris and myself are better prepared for future discussions.
>
> -BRIAN RITCHIE
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bro, what you said is correct. It is unfortunate that the Gomen still
>> thinks that it is world-class. Having a third class attitude is more
>> like it.
>>
>> Cyber security and response requires cutting down a lot of red tapes
>> and bureaucracy to a degree that it will actually work. I am unsure
>> many of those in the Gomen knows what is happening in the first place.
>>
>> Possibly all they know about security is installing the latest AV or
>> "buying security in a box". The education part must work hand-in-hand
>> with mechanisms and policies in place for effective response.
>>
>> The ruling regime is fond of talking, like many others. They are
>> afraid to engage with the community as this ultimately show how
>> inadequate they are in doing their jobs.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Hasanuddin Abu
>> Bakar<bizkutrai at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Malaysia biasa la. need to wait 10 years for this thing _might_ happen
>> > because of various reasons. No offend. That's usual.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>> > -------------------------------
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>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:29 PM, BRIAN
>> > RITCHIE<esqbrianritchie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Agree with Haris. What we need right now is the ability for outside
>> >> help
>> to
>> >> come in and work together to build a more targeted, robust
>> >> architecture.
>> I
>> >> am sure they have the same notion. Lets see what we can do. :-) In the
>> mean
>> >> time, we would love to hear your opinion on how the Gov should tackle
>> >> CyberSecurity. What are we lacking, what is required, and do you think
>> >> there's a solution to this ?
>> >>
>> >> -BRIAN RITCHIE
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>> >> <linuxmalaysia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> MyCert under Cybersecurity as respond team...
>> >>>
>> >>> IMPACT The International Multilateral Partnership Against Cyber
>> >>> Threats (IMPACT)..
>> >>>
>> >>> Lets them handle all the training, awareness and policy... What we
>> >>> need
>> is
>> >>> a channel  between community and the government for the community to
>> share
>> >>> information related to security of Malaysia in the Internet...
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