MOTU Meeting Notes

Emmet Hikory persia at
Fri Aug 8 07:55:30 BST 2008

Stephan Hermann wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:08:13AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote:
>>         * Any MOTU can request the resignation of someone on
>> - -sru/-release, which can be brought up on the list and discussed. If
>> the issues can't be resolved, the MC will have to resolve it
> Regarding this, what would be a sane reason to do this, despite
> personal and social problems?
> I think we never had the case, that if someone has no time anymore, that
> he/she was glueing his/her bum on the chair for those teams?
> So, IMHO the only reason which can force such a thing is a personal
> quarrel or a social problem between the requesting motu and the motu in
> question?

    We've never historically had the issue.  One other thing that
might cause such a thing is if someone silently goes on extended
vacation (yes, CoC is supposed to protect against this), and someone
thinks they ought be removed to make it more obvious there is indeed
an open slot on the team.  Another possibility is if some member of
the team appeared not to be exercising the wisdom expected from their
position (lots of new upstreams approved that broke stuff, poorly
watched updates that caused lots of user complaint, etc.), in which
case I think public discussion is a good thing, and would expect most
cases to result in the withdrawl of the call for resignation (although
I'd hope that the selection process was strong enough that such a
person was never appointed to the team).

    That said, I don't think this will see much use: generally we can
resolve most of our disputes more gracefully.  On the other hand, if
we can't, I'd rather have a mechanism for removal in policy than have
to debate what the removal policy would be in the event that there was
strong sentiment that someone should be removed.


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