libdvdcss2 for multiverse

[John Dong]

On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 08:26:22PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Am Dienstag, den 20.11.2007, 11:17 -0500 schrieb John Dong:
> > Medibuntu is managed by competent, trustworthy hands whom we are familiar
> > with. Is there anything wrong with having our automatic codec installer system
> > be able to put in medibuntu sources? AFAIK distributing a script to find stuff
> > like this is not illegal (OpenSuse is doing it in North America, heck
> > libdvdread3 already does this but fetches a Debian libdvdcss2 package)
> > 
> 
> The problem is not the source or the package. As Siretart told Mario on
> irc, too.
> The problem is, that what css2 is doing. this is illegal in some
> countries all over the world.
> 
I understand that css's actions are legally troublesome in many
countries.
> Therefore, we can fetch via postinstall script those packages, sure,
> because then it's not coming from us, and we don't distribute it.
> Referencing to other sources should be legal in most of the world
> countries ;)
> 
Yeah, I'm thinking at this point there's few excuses why we can't have a
postinstall fetcher a la flashplugin-nonfree to circumvent that problem.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 05:06:29PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > > Hi Mario,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:01:14 -0600
> > > schrieb "Mario Limonciello" <superm1 at ubuntu.com>:
> > > 
> > > > Hi again everyone.
> > > > 
> > > > In line with my previous thoughts I was looking more for
> > > > possibilities to lower barriers requiring the use of medibuntu.  The
> > > > next item I wanted to address was libdvdcss2, which I'm sure will be
> > > > stirring a separate discussion. (This is why I'm starting a separate
> > > > thread for it).
> > > > 
> > > > Quoting from http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components:
> > > > 
> > > > The "multiverse" component contains software that is "not free",
> > > > which means
> > > > > the licensing requirements of this software do not meet the Ubuntu
> > > > > "main" Component Licence
> > > > > Policy<http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/licensing>.
> > > > > <http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/licensing>
> > > > >
> > > > > The onus is on you to verify your rights to use this software and
> > > > > comply with the licensing terms of the copyright holder.
> > > > >
> > > > > This software is not supported and usually cannot be fixed or
> > > > > updated. Use it at your own risk.
> > > > >
> > > > The license on the software allows redistribution, the questionable
> > > > part then becomes copyright and/or patents in some locations.  If
> > > > users are supposed to verify their rights to use software in
> > > > multiverse first, What is keeping it from multiverse?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The software itself is not the problem, imho. The problem is, that css2
> > > (the purpose of this software) is totally illegal in many countries.
> > > Which means, even the usage or the distribution is illegal.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, it will go like that: some strange american lawyer, paid by media
> > > industry, will sue canonical as sponsor and main developer company
> > > behind ubuntu, and I don't think nobody wants to see this happen.
> > > 
> > > css2 is a very special case. But it's easy, even for
> > > non-well-knowledged people to install it manually from other
> > > repositories.
> > > 
> > > And, don't by crypted dvds ,-)
> > > 
> > > \sh 
> > > 
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