[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] Wastebasket/Deleted Items

[Dan Bishop]

On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 12:31 +0100, Ben Goodger wrote:
> On 29/08/06, Toby Smithe <toby.smithe at gmail.com> wrote:
>         On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 08:30 +0100, Dan Bishop wrote:
>         > On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 08:26 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote:
>         > > On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 15:52 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan
>         wrote:
>         > > > On Tuesday 29 August 2006 15:42, William Anderson <
>         neuro at well.com> wrote:
>         > > > > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
>         > > > > > [snip]
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > > The GNOME and KDE teams have agreed on some
>         conventions regarding the 
>         > > > > > "Trash" moniker:
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > > " Trash should be translated to Wastebin when
>         referring to the
>         > > > > > desktop/file manager. Other situations can use
>         either 'Wastebin' or 
>         > > > > > 'Deleted Items' as seems most appropriate (KMail
>         uses Deleted Items).
>         > > > > > Beware of Trash being used as a verb which should be
>         translated as 'Move
>         > > > > > to Wastebin'. " 
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > > Their respective home pages are at:
>         > > > > >   http://live.gnome.org/BritishEnglish
>         > > > > >   http://kde.me.uk/index.php?page=kde-en-gb
>         > > > >
>         > > > > You've quoted the KDE version; the GNOME page states
>         "Wastebasket", not 
>         > > > > "Wastebin".  Can we influence these upstreams in any
>         way about our Deleted
>         > > > > Items thinking?  I can certainly ping Jonathan Riddell
>         and see what he
>         > > > > thinks. 
>         > > >
>         > > > Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out. On a quick glance,
>         the paragraphs looked
>         > > > identical. I didn't notice the Wastebin/Wastebasket
>         distinction.
>         > > >
>         > > > I definitely would like to move such a change upstream.
>         I don't see any point 
>         > > > in GNOME and KDE using different names for the same
>         thing.
>         > >
>         > > Also I think that this would be good for consistency. Even
>         in different
>         > > DEs, I believe that the term should be the same. 
>         >
>         > I agree, but does anyone really say wastebasket or wastebin?
>         I know I
>         > don't. I'd always say simply bin.
>         
>         I usually say plainly bin; however, I do sometimes say "waste
>         paper
>         basket", but I'd agree with anyone pointing out that that's a
>         bit of a 
>         mouthful to have on the desktop.
> 
> The problem is that "bin" sounds utterly crap for a computer. As
> mentioned before by me, ~/.Trash is no longer much like a bin.

Hmm, true, it does. Perhaps it should just always be deleted items
folder. To me wastebin/basket sounds equally rubbish for a computer and
while it sounds less american than trash, it doesn't really sound any
more natural since people don't really say it in general speech.
> 
> -- 
> Ben Goodger
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