RFC: #ubuntu op misuse or not?

Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schinstad at ubuntu.com
Fri May 16 10:37:41 UTC 2014


Hello Rohan.

I read your email and about 75% of the first irc-logs from -ops. At that
point, the discussion was in a loop and I saw no reason to read any
further. I'm not part of the IRC team and that I have no particularly close
relationship with any of the participants. I have been around the Ubuntu
community for a while, and I'm one of those kids who's been around since
before the internet and IRC. I know the Ubuntu community and how IRC works
and I honestly believe myself to be completely unbiased in this case.

I didn't see what happened in #Ubuntu, but my understanding was that you
made some kind of comment about the offtopic discussion, were asked to stop
and did stop. That's great. However, your behaviour in the ops-channel was
completely unacceptable and to my eyes, it seemed to grow in intensity. You
were becoming more abusive, more adversarial and seemed to be stuck in the
issue, causing a repetitive cycle of accusation and response. That's not
constructive and it's not welcome in Ubuntu channels. I think it was a good
choice to make sure you didn't take that into the #Ubuntu channel. I don't
consider a ban to be a penalty, but a tool that is used to keep a channel
productive.

You asked for comments, so here's mine. I saw no ops misuse or personal
agendas at all. They were being calm and mature and did exactly what
they're supposed to. In my opinion, they were right, you were wrong and I
suggest you simply go do something else for a while and get your mind on
other things. I'm sure you'll be welcome when the anger and frustration
subsides.

Jo-Erlend
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