Real-time community support

Fri Apr 16 22:21:40 UTC 2010

Hi,

I am a member of the Ubuntu IRC Council, but I am expressing my own
opinion only at this time. We have not discussed this matter in the
Council, because this is not related to the Ubuntu IRC channels. Also
because it is not related to our channels, I would prefer if the
discussion about your service would not continue on this list.

You are building a web service, and I hope it will be awesome. I hope
that many Ubuntu users will find it useful and use it, and you will
become a part of making Ubuntu greater. However, it is not relevant
here, as I'm sure you understand.

Cheers,

Juha Siltala (topyli)

On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 13:38 -0700, Me You wrote:

>      Hey guys, first off, I would like to say thank you very much for
> this great discussion that we're having.  Since launching tap 48 hours
> ago , we've got a lot of feedback about using IRC for authentication
> and such.  Since releasing, we've had anywhere from "that's a really
> good idea", to "wow this is a major security hole, we will never use
> this.".  Seeing that more people have been with the later, and we
> really value Ubuntu as a community, we're going to be changing our
> policy and allowing you to sign up to tap ( also with Twitter/Facebook
> Connect ) , and allow you to validate your IRC credentials by simply
> telling us your nick, which we will then send you a memo with a key
> which you can plugin to our site and we'll have all your moderation
> credentials linked up.  Terence actually came up with the idea, and we
> (tap) really thank him and the Ubuntu community for that, as we may
> have not thought about it ourselves!
> 
> 
> 
> idleone:
> 
> 
>      No worries about anything; it's completely understandable that
> people would think negative things about this looking in hindsight.
>  We really didn't anticipate people reacting in the way they did
> ( seems obvious now, but it was not when we first released, I
> suppose ).
> 
> 
> Jospeh:
> 
> 
>      I've had a few lengthy discussions with some IRC operators
> ( werdan7, lorenz ), and we've been talking about creating either a
> partnership or working something out, as we do not want to encroach on
> the Freenode.  Though with our new solution it seems we will be able
> to have Freenode out of the mix when it comes to authenticating, so we
> should be able to move forward without any problems for Freenode,
> Users, and tap.
> 
> 
> I'll keep you guys posted as to how things are coming along, as we're
> writing the software today and hopefully the solution can be
> implemented within the next day or so.
> 
> 
>     Thanks again for all the feedback and thoughts, we really
> appreciate it!
> 
> 
> Taso
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Joseph Price <pricechild at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
> 
>         Howdy, member of freenode staff here.
>         
>         I haven't been in a position to speak to other staff since
>         reading this email.
>         
>         For now, with no further knowledge on my part, I would
>         strongly advise
>         against using the same password on multiple networks if you
>         value the
>         accounts involved. I would also advise that if you do, that
>         you at
>         least don't let one of those networks know the others. This is
>         especially important if your services account has +o,+f etc in
>         our
>         channels.
>         
>         Apologies to tap if i'm being a little hasty, i'll be glad to
>         retract
>         and apologise later.
>         
>         Pricey
>         
>         
>         
>         On 4/16/10, idleone <oneidle at gmail.com> wrote:
>         > It has been brought to my attention that my latest replies
>         to the list
>         > have been rude.
>         >
>         > I do apologize if that is how I came off and will try harder
>         to word my
>         > replies in a more polite manner.
>         >
>         >
>         > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 09:47 +0100, Terence Simpson wrote:
>         >> Please note that this site attempts to identify (as) you
>         via NickServ on
>         >> freenode. The site will also store the NickServ password
>         (hashed). There
>         >> is a security issue here, as giving away this information
>         also gives
>         >> away any channel privileges you have.
>         >>
>         >> Until this changes, I'm going to recommend that no one from
>         the IRC team
>         >> attempt to login to that site. If you already have, please
>         change your
>         >> NickServ password as soon as possible (/msg NickServ help
>         set password).
>         >>
>         >> Thanks,
>         >> Terence Simpson (tsimpson)
>         >>
>         >>
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