Real-time community support

[Me You]

...I hope this answers your questions.

Taso

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Me You <devsedev at gmail.com> wrote:

> idleone:
>
> We currently don't allow you to use it anything except IRC authentication,
> so there is no signup, though perhaps we'll include that in the next day or
> so along with Twitter/Facebook connect, it's simply that IRC has all of your
> moderation structure and a group of quality people that know the system and
> we can link automatically so that is why we're using IRC for auth.  We can
> introduce this in the next coming days if need be.
>
> Sorry about the name "Me You" and email address, I subscribed to this
> mailing list under an email account that I don't use to not receive to many
> messages ( my real email is tasoduv at gmail.com ).  We thought the site was
> a pretty good name ( albeit a .info ) , though it seems to work pretty well
> for now and most people seem to remember it.
>
> rzertek:
>
> We only take your credentials once, we don't check them every time.  So
> it's separate from IRC, we only use it on the first authentication to link
> your IRC account.
>
> I hope this answer
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:02 PM, razertek <justinsartistry at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok what is irc-bounces?
>>
>>
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>> Justin Venable
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ubuntu-irc-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
>> ubuntu-irc-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of idleone
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:37 PM
>> To: Ubuntu IRC issues discussion list
>> Subject: Re: Real-time community support
>>
>> This email and the site linked in it seem suspicious to me.
>>
>> I suggest that nobody enters username and password into the login field
>> on that site.
>>
>> Where is the Sign Up link on the site if I don't want to use my freenode
>> info?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 19:30 -0700, Me You wrote:
>> > Hey Ubuntu IRC, my name is Taso and I've been working as the lead
>> > engineer on a platform for real-time communities and support with
>> > another engineer for a bit over a year now.  You can check out what we
>> > have at http://tap.info .  Tap ( our product ) allows for
>> > easily accessible and scalable real-time communities to be created so
>> > that you can have large group discussion and moderation within a
>> > specific community.  If you use the search you'll see that we already
>> > have a fair amount of open source and programming projects setup on
>> > tap , and we've setup a few for you guys based off of your irc
>> > channels.  The demo we setup is here: http://tap.info/group/ubuntu  ..
>> > we also setup a few others so when you search for Ubuntu you'll get
>> > back some results that allow you to connect to the appropriate niche.
>> >
>> >
>> > A lot of our functionality and innovation comes from a bug that was
>> > reported in the Ubuntu community
>> > forums, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799 ... as
>> > our sole purpose was not Ubuntu, nore IRC at first, we soon realized
>> > as we were creating our product that many things that we were doing
>> > were very similar to IRC and Ubuntu (as a community) seemed to be the
>> > perfect example of the pain point we're aiming to
>> > solve; scalable real-time communities; and that problem will only grow
>> > with Ubuntu and other communities in the future as growth progresses.
>> >
>> >
>> > Everything on tap is as real-time as IRC or any chat, as we a TCP/HTTP
>> > translation layer similar to the comet protocol for doing all of our
>> > real-time interaction, using JavasScript.  Currently there are a few
>> > smaller communities using our site, but we've built things to scale
>> > and we would also like to see how a community such as Ubuntu would
>> > perform using what we've built.  It's sorta like Twitter meets Google
>> > Wave, with a focus on communities.  Threaded conversations allow for a
>> > community to grow much larger in size, as the majority of chatter in a
>> > chatroom is a response to something that was originally said, when you
>> > thread the conversations, you essentially grow the ability to have
>> > more users by the percentage of responses, which is about 80-90%, as
>> > that's what makes a chatroom such as on IRC so "noisy".
>> >
>> >
>> > One other huge benefit is that, believe it or not, most developers
>> > don't use or don't even realize IRC still exists.  Living in the heart
>> > of Silicon Valley, it's still the consensus that IRC has gone away;
>> > which of course many people would disagree with, but it's kinda fact;
>> > as only 60,000 users on freenode active, and that's extremely small
>> > compared to even the user base of Ubuntu.  By creating an easy to use
>> > and easily accessible real-time community on the web, you would be
>> > opening up support to lots of people.  Our search also allows you to
>> > create a community with a niche corresponding to the keywords, so that
>> > in the even that a community does get to big by chance ( it would have
>> > to be over a million users or so to make a quality/noise difference ),
>> > then you would see  could split up the channel based on the keywords,
>> > so that when users search they get a 'tap room' relevant to the niche.
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, we built tap so that scaleable real-time communities can exist,
>> > and we see a lot of uses for them, we hope that you guys will give tap
>> > a shot , as that would be terrific for everyone involved.  Currently
>> > we linked it to Freenodes authentication so that when you join you
>> > automatically have the permissions relevant to your moderation status,
>> > and so that we can limit users, as our back-end is pretty large so we
>> > thought it would be good to limit it to freenode for the time being.
>> >
>> >
>> > We just released tap less then 24 hours ago and we hope that you guys
>> > find it as useful.  We hope we tap can become the new IRC and that
>> > real-time communities can flourish in mass while keeping very high
>> > quality.  That's our goal.  Looking forward to hearing everyones
>> > thoughts on this.
>> >
>> >
>> > Taso.
>>
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