Real-time community support

Fri Apr 16 05:36:50 UTC 2010

idleone:

We currently don't allow you to use it anything except IRC authentication,
so there is no signup, though perhaps we'll include that in the next day or
so along with Twitter/Facebook connect, it's simply that IRC has all of your
moderation structure and a group of quality people that know the system and
we can link automatically so that is why we're using IRC for auth.  We can
introduce this in the next coming days if need be.

Sorry about the name "Me You" and email address, I subscribed to this
mailing list under an email account that I don't use to not receive to many
messages ( my real email is tasoduv at gmail.com ).  We thought the site was a
pretty good name ( albeit a .info ) , though it seems to work pretty well
for now and most people seem to remember it.

rzertek:

We only take your credentials once, we don't check them every time.  So
it's separate from IRC, we only use it on the first authentication to link
your IRC account.

I hope this answer

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:02 PM, razertek <justinsartistry at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok what is irc-bounces?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-irc-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
> ubuntu-irc-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of idleone
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:37 PM
> To: Ubuntu IRC issues discussion list
> Subject: Re: Real-time community support
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> This email and the site linked in it seem suspicious to me.
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> I suggest that nobody enters username and password into the login field
> on that site.
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> Where is the Sign Up link on the site if I don't want to use my freenode
> info?
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> On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 19:30 -0700, Me You wrote:
> > Hey Ubuntu IRC, my name is Taso and I've been working as the lead
> > engineer on a platform for real-time communities and support with
> > another engineer for a bit over a year now.  You can check out what we
> > have at http://tap.info .  Tap ( our product ) allows for
> > easily accessible and scalable real-time communities to be created so
> > that you can have large group discussion and moderation within a
> > specific community.  If you use the search you'll see that we already
> > have a fair amount of open source and programming projects setup on
> > tap , and we've setup a few for you guys based off of your irc
> > channels.  The demo we setup is here: http://tap.info/group/ubuntu  ..
> > we also setup a few others so when you search for Ubuntu you'll get
> > back some results that allow you to connect to the appropriate niche.
> >
> >
> > A lot of our functionality and innovation comes from a bug that was
> > reported in the Ubuntu community
> > forums, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799 ... as
> > our sole purpose was not Ubuntu, nore IRC at first, we soon realized
> > as we were creating our product that many things that we were doing
> > were very similar to IRC and Ubuntu (as a community) seemed to be the
> > perfect example of the pain point we're aiming to
> > solve; scalable real-time communities; and that problem will only grow
> > with Ubuntu and other communities in the future as growth progresses.
> >
> >
> > Everything on tap is as real-time as IRC or any chat, as we a TCP/HTTP
> > translation layer similar to the comet protocol for doing all of our
> > real-time interaction, using JavasScript.  Currently there are a few
> > smaller communities using our site, but we've built things to scale
> > and we would also like to see how a community such as Ubuntu would
> > perform using what we've built.  It's sorta like Twitter meets Google
> > Wave, with a focus on communities.  Threaded conversations allow for a
> > community to grow much larger in size, as the majority of chatter in a
> > chatroom is a response to something that was originally said, when you
> > thread the conversations, you essentially grow the ability to have
> > more users by the percentage of responses, which is about 80-90%, as
> > that's what makes a chatroom such as on IRC so "noisy".
> >
> >
> > One other huge benefit is that, believe it or not, most developers
> > don't use or don't even realize IRC still exists.  Living in the heart
> > of Silicon Valley, it's still the consensus that IRC has gone away;
> > which of course many people would disagree with, but it's kinda fact;
> > as only 60,000 users on freenode active, and that's extremely small
> > compared to even the user base of Ubuntu.  By creating an easy to use
> > and easily accessible real-time community on the web, you would be
> > opening up support to lots of people.  Our search also allows you to
> > create a community with a niche corresponding to the keywords, so that
> > in the even that a community does get to big by chance ( it would have
> > to be over a million users or so to make a quality/noise difference ),
> > then you would see  could split up the channel based on the keywords,
> > so that when users search they get a 'tap room' relevant to the niche.
> >
> >
> > Well, we built tap so that scaleable real-time communities can exist,
> > and we see a lot of uses for them, we hope that you guys will give tap
> > a shot , as that would be terrific for everyone involved.  Currently
> > we linked it to Freenodes authentication so that when you join you
> > automatically have the permissions relevant to your moderation status,
> > and so that we can limit users, as our back-end is pretty large so we
> > thought it would be good to limit it to freenode for the time being.
> >
> >
> > We just released tap less then 24 hours ago and we hope that you guys
> > find it as useful.  We hope we tap can become the new IRC and that
> > real-time communities can flourish in mass while keeping very high
> > quality.  That's our goal.  Looking forward to hearing everyones
> > thoughts on this.
> >
> >
> > Taso.
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