Request for the removal of IRSEEK bot from all ubuntu channels.
Lorenzo J. Lucchini
ljlbox at tiscali.it
Thu Mar 13 14:08:22 UTC 2008
On Thursday 13 March 2008 09:22:33 Matthew East wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com> wrote:
> > LjL said:
> > > The idea itself that IRC chats are protected by copyright is debatable,
> > > although IANAL and I won't try to get into the specifics.
> >
> > This was originally a valid point, but when it was first brought up we
> > added a statement on the IRC guidelines declaring that the content of all
> > Ubuntu channels is in the public domain, which is implicitly agreed to by
> > joining and speaking in the channels, so this particular point is now
> > null.
>
> It's not particularly relevant for this discussion, but if you're
> seriously relying on an "implied agreement" on the part of people who
> join channels to IRC guidelines as having legal consequences, whether
> in relation to waiving copyright or any other right, you're in
> trouble.
Agreed, for what I'm concerned; legal statements in the IRC guidelines (also
considering they're published on a wiki) hold little water. On the other
hand, I suppose they can't hurt very much, either.
But then, it is a side issue: we *already* have official logs published, so
whatever copyright arguments may be put forth against IRSeek could be used
with the Ubuntu logs, too.
But honestly - copyrightability of short phrases said in a chatroom
contingently in order to ask or reply to real-time support questions? I doubt
it.
So in any case, I really don't think we're *relying* on any legal statement in
the guidelines; it's an add-on at best.
by LjL
ljl at ubuntu.com
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