Attack at the council

Jan Vancura jenda at ubuntu.com
Mon Dec 18 19:28:10 UTC 2006


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>>> If you disagree with the decision of an operator, then talk to him about it in a polite manner. Cursing and swearing will not help, so please don't do that. If talking to the operator personally does not give you a solution you like, you are more than welcome to join the operators channel.
> 

This sort of doesn't work when that same operator doesn't let you claim
your right in the operator channel.

> Now what can we do about what already took place. im saddened to say
> nothing really. I do believe hawkwind didnt know the ML was as public as
> it is and i do believe jenda was acting for hawkwind (just a side note
> please do things yourself so others dont get the blunt of the crap)

Agreed. I don't feel relieved of the guilt for that though. I didn't
however feel such a difference between the publicness of the channel and
the ML.

> Ompaul is a close frend of mine and he is one of the biggest reasons i
> got inviolved (seveas was another one) and no this is not to blame
> anyone at all or make them feel bad but we just lost a long time member
> and op that has done alot for the ubuntu community including make his
> own distro. i believe things really need to be looked at alot more
> closely on everyones part. but keep inmind everyone is human and noone
> is perfect.

Ompaul was one of the two people that led me through my beginnings
within Ubuntu. It hurts me to see him go like this, more so since I took
part.

> 
> About the council of non ops. I think this is a bad idea because ...

I think it's mainly redundant. We have the Community Council for issues
that the IRC council can't resolve.

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Jenda Vančura <jenda at ubuntu.com>
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