[ubuntu-in] grub issues in karmic

Anurag Jain anuragjainfzd at gmail.com
Tue Mar 30 15:56:00 BST 2010


Hello all,
The problem with while dual booting windows seven and linux is that
sometimes linux install
gets into the partition where boot manager of windows seven exists. Windows
7's default partitionar
creates on small 10 mb partition to install its boot manager which gets
taken away while installing linux and creates problem booting into windows.
One option is the one which Ashutosh suggested, if it works good.
but my point of view is that to never use windows default partitioner rather
go with G-parted, I always ensures that my windows resides in a single
partition along with it boot manager. So there is no fear in getting such
problems. Currently I am having a triple boot with ubuntu 9.10, Opensolaris
2009.04 and windows 7 and similar problem was also faced by me. Hope this
will help.

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> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:02:52 +0530
> From: Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan <ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] grub issues in karmic
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> On 29 March 2010 16:10, Moz <listmoz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All
> > I have installed Karmic on a Lenovo X41 thinkpad, which came with XP.
> Karmic
> > is on a separate partition and works fine. But I can not boot to XP
> anymore.
> > And it seems that the boot configs are changed. I can not find
> > /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit.
> > Can anyone help?
> > Sincerely,
> > Moz
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> The simplest way I found that worked for me twice was just booting
> into karmic or a live CD (karmic and above only) and running 'sudo
> update-grub2'
> Just today after installing lucid and upgrading to beta1 my windows 7
> entry disappeared. I ran 'sudo update-grub2' and it found windows 7
> entry again.
>
>
> --
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> Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:01:09 +0530
> From: Jkhatri <khatri.jatin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what
> To: Ubuntu India Local Community <ubuntu-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 03/23/2010 04:37 PM, Amarendra Kumar wrote:
> > Great post Ram.
> >
> > I have been mulling over such issues recently. And similarly, I like
> > Ubuntu but I used to love Ubuntu. Some changes have happened that I
> > personally don't like and it's bound to happen in case of such a huge
> > user base distro. But things like moving widgets to the left side is
> > something I find weird as most of the users are windows migrants like
> > me and left side widgets are painful too (I tried it on my friends Mac
> > for long enough to be sure).
> >
> > I am triple booting Vista (for stuffs like Counter Strike etc.),
> > Fedora (used seldom, didn't like actually) and Ubuntu is my main OS. I
> > have planning on an Ubuntu alternative myself especially in case I
> > have top ditch it seeing the growing control over it. I had chosen
> > Arch Linux for that purpose which is included in Ram's list.
> >
> > So I will replace Fedora partition ===> Arch Linux.
> >
> > I don't know why but I have this strong feeling that I may convert to
> > Mac once I can afford one :P
>
> hacked mac is available for PC ( Intel Hardware )
>
> OSx86 see .....................http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86
>
>
> have a look at this for more details ......http://ihackintosh.org/ideneb
>
> ;-)
>
> > After all if I have to go for closed open source why not go for a
> > better and solid closed closed source.
> >
> > These developments made one thing clear - I am not going to be a
> > complete one-OS convert , not at least in near future. Options are
> > always good.
> >
> > Somebody once rightly said in an IRC channel: " don't stick to one
> > distro for long, you will lose the thrill". I am loosing it :)
> >
> > Cheers!!
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan
> > <ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com <mailto:ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     > So not debating the specifics of Mark Shuttleworth's comments
> >     and the reactions
> >     > and the interpretations, I am getting an uneasy feeling. That
> >     maybe just maybe
> >     > we are becoming Ubuntu dependent and too complacent.
> >     >
> >     > I can walk blindfolded through a typical Ubuntu install and its
> >     subsequent
> >     > setup of additional programmes, tweaking programmes to work like
> >     they should
> >     > for me.  Knowing what repos to add to get exactly what software
> >     and where to
> >     > source software (tuxwire, zyware).
> >     >
> >     > I cannot be happier with what i have. But what if we need to
> >     move to a freer
> >     > system. Are there any other distro's out there. Sure there are
> >     600 plus many
> >     > of them with a passionate user base and with its attendant problem.
> >
> >     Ubuntu has gone far from being a typical linux distro and its because
> >     of canonical. Ubuntu is now capable of challenging the macintosh and
> >     windows in their own game as a proper all-level consumer product.
> >     Getting its own music-store, thats an amazing feat (and its possible
> >     because of Canonical). Free and open source softwares are good. But
> in
> >     the main OS battlefield you cannot place your linux OS without a
> >     strong dedicated company (which will steer the advertising and
> >     management) backing it. Of course, the linux OS can be amazing in
> >     functioning, but thats it. It won't create much of an impact on
> >     'everyone'.
> >
> >     Canonical can rightfully guide ubuntu (and its amazing that they do
> it
> >     as saints). Because ubuntu is getting so popular, its essential for
> >     ubuntu to have Canonical securing its interests. The final decision
> to
> >     what appears in ubuntu is Canonical's decision and they really have
> to
> >     base their decision (now) on the fact that ubuntu is being eyed as a
> >     fierce competitor to mac and windows (even though there are other
> good
> >     linux OS, Ubuntu has entered the consumer stream more deeply). A good
> >     proof of this happening is that all the major softwares when
> available
> >     for download focus on ubuntu as a major consumer linux OS.
> >
> >     I love Ubuntu because frankly till now I have had no objections to
> >     Canonical's decisions. I weigh their decisions in terms of its effect
> >     on new users not me because I know that the decision won't really
> >     affect me because I can choose what I want after installing the
> >     default. Canonical does not enforce but merely makes their decisions
> >     idiot-proof.
> >
> >     > My questions are how would people feel about trying out a distro
> >     other than
> >     > Ubuntu (specially first time users), in fact have first time
> >     linux Ubuntu users
> >     > tried other distro's and what do they feel.
> >     >
> >     > I started of with fedora 1 and went through a variety and can
> >     make another
> >     > distro do to my bidding.
> >
> >     I tried fedora. Found it not much different from my experience on
> >     ubuntu. Even though Ubuntu is moving to be more idiot-proof, it has
> >     definitely not left behind the powerhouse of linux like what fedora
> >     has. This is the best thing I like about ubuntu. You can team up
> >     old-school and new-school. Plus, I found ubuntu's development and
> >     package managers more better.
> >
> >     Another distro I tried was Archos. Its brilliant! and fun. You can
> >     build your own OS based on your choice. I ruined my OS :P
> >
> >
> >     > My other question is how many of us dual boot a second linux OS
> >     and is your
> >     > secondary OS as well set as your primary, are you comfortable
> >     with it, under
> >     > all conditions.
> >
> >     I had windows, ubuntu, fedora on the same computer. For some time I
> >     used fedora more than Ubuntu to see whether I should keep it.
> >     Eventually after a month I removed fedora from my main computer and
> >     gave its space to Ubuntu. Though I have had mad varieties on linux OS
> >     on my laptop. Currently I have Lucid beta1, Ubuntu karmic server and
> >     archos. I use archos mainly.
> >
> >     > My 3rd question is what would you suggest people try as a fall
> >     back option in
> >     > case people want to try and alternative.
> >     >
> >     > My suggestions are Pardus, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Knoppix
> >     > Others have suggested Arch Linux
> >
> >     I would suggest Fedora and so would Linus Torvald :)
> >
> >     > The few times in the recent past when i tried another distro i
> >     very quickly
> >     > reverted back to Ubuntu, since i was uncomfortable around my
> >     system but now i
> >     > think its worth exploring an alternative in great earnest.
> >     >
> >     > look forward to reactions
> >     >
> >     > ram
> >     >
> >
> >     For me, I go with the fact that at the end of the day, "Ubuntu is
> just
> >     linux OS with different packages than other OS, apt-get can get you
> >     anywhere."
> >
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     Ashutosh Rishi
> >     Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish
> >
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> >
> >
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> > Dept. of IT, NIT Patna
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> >
> > "Stay hungry, stay foolish"
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:33:27 +0530
> From: Hardik Dalwadi <hardik.dalwadi at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-in] Free Ubuntu 9.10 CDs
> To: vglug at googlegroups.com, linux-gujarat at googlegroups.com,     Ubuntu
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> Hello Community,
>
> I know 10.4 is month away, but I have few  original Ubuntu 9.10 CDs with
> me, I would like to share with you. If you are in Ahmedabad, i would be
> happy to share with you, if you are not in Ahmedabad, please arrange
> pick-up, i would be happy to do that also. Please contact me personally...
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Hardik Dalwadi
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:45:12 +0530
> From: Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan <ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what
> To: Ubuntu India Local Community <ubuntu-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 23 March 2010 16:37, Amarendra Kumar <er.amar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Great post Ram.
> >
> > I have been mulling over such issues recently. And similarly, I like
> Ubuntu
> > but I used to love Ubuntu. Some changes have happened that I personally
> > don't like and it's bound to happen in case of such a huge user base
> distro.
> > But things like moving widgets to the left side is something I find weird
> as
> > most of the users are windows migrants like me and left side widgets are
> > painful too (I tried it on my friends Mac for long enough to be sure).
> >
> > I am triple booting Vista (for stuffs like Counter Strike etc.), Fedora
> > (used seldom, didn't like actually) and Ubuntu is my main OS. I have
> > planning on an Ubuntu alternative myself especially in case I have top
> ditch
> > it seeing the growing control over it. I had chosen Arch Linux for that
> > purpose which is included in Ram's list.
> >
> > So I will replace Fedora partition ===> Arch Linux.
> >
> > I don't know why but I have this strong feeling that I may convert to Mac
> > once I can afford one :P
> > After all if I have to go for closed open source why not go for a better
> and
> > solid closed closed source.
>
> I am going to convert to a mac too. But...
> Mac will be replacing Windows not Ubuntu :P That is if I am able to
> dual boot in a mac book pro, the procedure in the forums was pretty
> elaborate. But I think I read somewhere that they are working on
> easier Ubuntu installations on Mac at the Google summer of Code.
>
> > These developments made one thing clear - I am not going to be a complete
> > one-OS convert , not at least in near future. Options are always good.
> >
> > Somebody once rightly said in an IRC channel: " don't stick to one distro
> > for long, you will lose the thrill". I am loosing it :)
>
> Nice line.. But actually Ubuntu keeps up the thrill with its six month
> release cycles and all the new features added weekly. I follow 3 main
> ubuntu blogs and am surprised and excited about all the amazing
> features and news which keep on coming. There are applications I never
> heard of and which should have been heard of. Its a fun world of
> Ubuntu!
>
> > Cheers!!
>
> --
> Ashutosh Rishi
> Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:51:51 +0530
> From: Kartik Mistry <kartik.mistry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] [linux-gujarat] Free Ubuntu 9.10 CDs
> To: linux-gujarat at googlegroups.com
> Cc: Ubuntu India Local Community <ubuntu-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Hardik Dalwadi
> <hardik.dalwadi at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > I know 10.4 is month away, but I have few ?original Ubuntu 9.10 CDs with
> me,
> > I would like to share with you. If you are in Ahmedabad, i would be happy
> to
> > share with you, if you are not in Ahmedabad, please arrange pick-up, i
> would
> > be happy to do that also. Please contact me personally...
>
> Lets meet this Saturday or Sunday as Linux-Gujarat meet. We can
> discuss about some nice features on 10.04 :)
>
> --
>  Cheers,
>  Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_
>  Debian GNU/Linux Developer | Identica: @kartikm
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>
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