[ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

Tue Mar 23 11:07:56 GMT 2010

Great post Ram.

I have been mulling over such issues recently. And similarly, I like Ubuntu
but I used to love Ubuntu. Some changes have happened that I personally
don't like and it's bound to happen in case of such a huge user base distro.
But things like moving widgets to the left side is something I find weird as
most of the users are windows migrants like me and left side widgets are
painful too (I tried it on my friends Mac for long enough to be sure).

I am triple booting Vista (for stuffs like Counter Strike etc.), Fedora
(used seldom, didn't like actually) and Ubuntu is my main OS. I have
planning on an Ubuntu alternative myself especially in case I have top ditch
it seeing the growing control over it. I had chosen Arch Linux for that
purpose which is included in Ram's list.

So I will replace Fedora partition ===> Arch Linux.

I don't know why but I have this strong feeling that I may convert to Mac
once I can afford one :P
After all if I have to go for closed open source why not go for a better and
solid closed closed source.

These developments made one thing clear - I am not going to be a complete
one-OS convert , not at least in near future. Options are always good.

Somebody once rightly said in an IRC channel: " don't stick to one distro
for long, you will lose the thrill". I am loosing it :)

Cheers!!

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan <
ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com> wrote:

> > So not debating the specifics of Mark Shuttleworth's comments and the
> reactions
> > and the interpretations, I am getting an uneasy feeling. That maybe just
> maybe
> > we are becoming Ubuntu dependent and too complacent.
> >
> > I can walk blindfolded through a typical Ubuntu install and its
> subsequent
> > setup of additional programmes, tweaking programmes to work like they
> should
> > for me.  Knowing what repos to add to get exactly what software and where
> to
> > source software (tuxwire, zyware).
> >
> > I cannot be happier with what i have. But what if we need to move to a
> freer
> > system. Are there any other distro's out there. Sure there are 600 plus
> many
> > of them with a passionate user base and with its attendant problem.
>
> Ubuntu has gone far from being a typical linux distro and its because
> of canonical. Ubuntu is now capable of challenging the macintosh and
> windows in their own game as a proper all-level consumer product.
> Getting its own music-store, thats an amazing feat (and its possible
> because of Canonical). Free and open source softwares are good. But in
> the main OS battlefield you cannot place your linux OS without a
> strong dedicated company (which will steer the advertising and
> management) backing it. Of course, the linux OS can be amazing in
> functioning, but thats it. It won't create much of an impact on
> 'everyone'.
>
> Canonical can rightfully guide ubuntu (and its amazing that they do it
> as saints). Because ubuntu is getting so popular, its essential for
> ubuntu to have Canonical securing its interests. The final decision to
> what appears in ubuntu is Canonical's decision and they really have to
> base their decision (now) on the fact that ubuntu is being eyed as a
> fierce competitor to mac and windows (even though there are other good
> linux OS, Ubuntu has entered the consumer stream more deeply). A good
> proof of this happening is that all the major softwares when available
> for download focus on ubuntu as a major consumer linux OS.
>
> I love Ubuntu because frankly till now I have had no objections to
> Canonical's decisions. I weigh their decisions in terms of its effect
> on new users not me because I know that the decision won't really
> affect me because I can choose what I want after installing the
> default. Canonical does not enforce but merely makes their decisions
> idiot-proof.
>
> > My questions are how would people feel about trying out a distro other
> than
> > Ubuntu (specially first time users), in fact have first time linux Ubuntu
> users
> > tried other distro's and what do they feel.
> >
> > I started of with fedora 1 and went through a variety and can make
> another
> > distro do to my bidding.
>
> I tried fedora. Found it not much different from my experience on
> ubuntu. Even though Ubuntu is moving to be more idiot-proof, it has
> definitely not left behind the powerhouse of linux like what fedora
> has. This is the best thing I like about ubuntu. You can team up
> old-school and new-school. Plus, I found ubuntu's development and
> package managers more better.
>
> Another distro I tried was Archos. Its brilliant! and fun. You can
> build your own OS based on your choice. I ruined my OS :P
>
>
> > My other question is how many of us dual boot a second linux OS and is
> your
> > secondary OS as well set as your primary, are you comfortable with it,
> under
> > all conditions.
>
> I had windows, ubuntu, fedora on the same computer. For some time I
> used fedora more than Ubuntu to see whether I should keep it.
> Eventually after a month I removed fedora from my main computer and
> gave its space to Ubuntu. Though I have had mad varieties on linux OS
> on my laptop. Currently I have Lucid beta1, Ubuntu karmic server and
> archos. I use archos mainly.
>
> > My 3rd question is what would you suggest people try as a fall back
> option in
> > case people want to try and alternative.
> >
> > My suggestions are Pardus, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Knoppix
> > Others have suggested Arch Linux
>
> I would suggest Fedora and so would Linus Torvald :)
>
> > The few times in the recent past when i tried another distro i very
> quickly
> > reverted back to Ubuntu, since i was uncomfortable around my system but
> now i
> > think its worth exploring an alternative in great earnest.
> >
> > look forward to reactions
> >
> > ram
> >
>
> For me, I go with the fact that at the end of the day, "Ubuntu is just
> linux OS with different packages than other OS, apt-get can get you
> anywhere."
>
>
>
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> Ashutosh Rishi
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>
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