[ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

Fri Mar 26 13:31:09 GMT 2010

On 03/23/2010 04:37 PM, Amarendra Kumar wrote:
> Great post Ram.
>
> I have been mulling over such issues recently. And similarly, I like 
> Ubuntu but I used to love Ubuntu. Some changes have happened that I 
> personally don't like and it's bound to happen in case of such a huge 
> user base distro. But things like moving widgets to the left side is 
> something I find weird as most of the users are windows migrants like 
> me and left side widgets are painful too (I tried it on my friends Mac 
> for long enough to be sure).
>
> I am triple booting Vista (for stuffs like Counter Strike etc.), 
> Fedora (used seldom, didn't like actually) and Ubuntu is my main OS. I 
> have planning on an Ubuntu alternative myself especially in case I 
> have top ditch it seeing the growing control over it. I had chosen 
> Arch Linux for that purpose which is included in Ram's list.
>
> So I will replace Fedora partition ===> Arch Linux.
>
> I don't know why but I have this strong feeling that I may convert to 
> Mac once I can afford one :P

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> After all if I have to go for closed open source why not go for a 
> better and solid closed closed source.
>
> These developments made one thing clear - I am not going to be a 
> complete one-OS convert , not at least in near future. Options are 
> always good.
>
> Somebody once rightly said in an IRC channel: " don't stick to one 
> distro for long, you will lose the thrill". I am loosing it :)
>
> Cheers!!
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan 
> <ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com <mailto:ashutoshrishi92 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     > So not debating the specifics of Mark Shuttleworth's comments
>     and the reactions
>     > and the interpretations, I am getting an uneasy feeling. That
>     maybe just maybe
>     > we are becoming Ubuntu dependent and too complacent.
>     >
>     > I can walk blindfolded through a typical Ubuntu install and its
>     subsequent
>     > setup of additional programmes, tweaking programmes to work like
>     they should
>     > for me.  Knowing what repos to add to get exactly what software
>     and where to
>     > source software (tuxwire, zyware).
>     >
>     > I cannot be happier with what i have. But what if we need to
>     move to a freer
>     > system. Are there any other distro's out there. Sure there are
>     600 plus many
>     > of them with a passionate user base and with its attendant problem.
>
>     Ubuntu has gone far from being a typical linux distro and its because
>     of canonical. Ubuntu is now capable of challenging the macintosh and
>     windows in their own game as a proper all-level consumer product.
>     Getting its own music-store, thats an amazing feat (and its possible
>     because of Canonical). Free and open source softwares are good. But in
>     the main OS battlefield you cannot place your linux OS without a
>     strong dedicated company (which will steer the advertising and
>     management) backing it. Of course, the linux OS can be amazing in
>     functioning, but thats it. It won't create much of an impact on
>     'everyone'.
>
>     Canonical can rightfully guide ubuntu (and its amazing that they do it
>     as saints). Because ubuntu is getting so popular, its essential for
>     ubuntu to have Canonical securing its interests. The final decision to
>     what appears in ubuntu is Canonical's decision and they really have to
>     base their decision (now) on the fact that ubuntu is being eyed as a
>     fierce competitor to mac and windows (even though there are other good
>     linux OS, Ubuntu has entered the consumer stream more deeply). A good
>     proof of this happening is that all the major softwares when available
>     for download focus on ubuntu as a major consumer linux OS.
>
>     I love Ubuntu because frankly till now I have had no objections to
>     Canonical's decisions. I weigh their decisions in terms of its effect
>     on new users not me because I know that the decision won't really
>     affect me because I can choose what I want after installing the
>     default. Canonical does not enforce but merely makes their decisions
>     idiot-proof.
>
>     > My questions are how would people feel about trying out a distro
>     other than
>     > Ubuntu (specially first time users), in fact have first time
>     linux Ubuntu users
>     > tried other distro's and what do they feel.
>     >
>     > I started of with fedora 1 and went through a variety and can
>     make another
>     > distro do to my bidding.
>
>     I tried fedora. Found it not much different from my experience on
>     ubuntu. Even though Ubuntu is moving to be more idiot-proof, it has
>     definitely not left behind the powerhouse of linux like what fedora
>     has. This is the best thing I like about ubuntu. You can team up
>     old-school and new-school. Plus, I found ubuntu's development and
>     package managers more better.
>
>     Another distro I tried was Archos. Its brilliant! and fun. You can
>     build your own OS based on your choice. I ruined my OS :P
>
>
>     > My other question is how many of us dual boot a second linux OS
>     and is your
>     > secondary OS as well set as your primary, are you comfortable
>     with it, under
>     > all conditions.
>
>     I had windows, ubuntu, fedora on the same computer. For some time I
>     used fedora more than Ubuntu to see whether I should keep it.
>     Eventually after a month I removed fedora from my main computer and
>     gave its space to Ubuntu. Though I have had mad varieties on linux OS
>     on my laptop. Currently I have Lucid beta1, Ubuntu karmic server and
>     archos. I use archos mainly.
>
>     > My 3rd question is what would you suggest people try as a fall
>     back option in
>     > case people want to try and alternative.
>     >
>     > My suggestions are Pardus, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Knoppix
>     > Others have suggested Arch Linux
>
>     I would suggest Fedora and so would Linus Torvald :)
>
>     > The few times in the recent past when i tried another distro i
>     very quickly
>     > reverted back to Ubuntu, since i was uncomfortable around my
>     system but now i
>     > think its worth exploring an alternative in great earnest.
>     >
>     > look forward to reactions
>     >
>     > ram
>     >
>
>     For me, I go with the fact that at the end of the day, "Ubuntu is just
>     linux OS with different packages than other OS, apt-get can get you
>     anywhere."
>
>
>
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>     Ashutosh Rishi
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> -- 
> Amarendra Kumar
> Final Year Undergraduate
> Dept. of IT, NIT Patna
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>
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