Online Meeting

Fri Jul 1 20:48:05 UTC 2011

>
> if anyone in the world is interested enough to sit next to me and see
> everything I do over my laptop, then he will be more than welcome, no
> problem for me ;-)
>
>
>
So may I come over and watch you while you are purchasing an ebook online? I
can easily memorize your credit /debit card data and financial info.

Prevention is better than cure. Privacy is a concept that must be maintained
in real and e-life.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> +Haitham: I completely agree with #1, and I'll explain my point in this
> next reply concerning #2:
>
> +Qbits: I slightly disagree with you, I read your posts but no I'm not
> shutting my eyes. I said earlier (if proved I'll sue them) about privacy and
> stuff like that...
>
> It's just like having someone tracking you and keep records of each thing
> you do in your real life (which roads you take, where you go, who you meet,
> what's your family members ...etc). If someone has free time enough to do
> that then I have no single problem because he will write something like "Go
> to work, Hang out with friends, Go Home, ...etc" ,, nothing that may
> interest anybody in the world (Is he going to write my daily memo for me??).
> But while I may be walking in public roads, and using public
> transportations, and go to public places, if I noticed that someone is
> really tracking this all I'll definitely sue him, that's by nature.
>
> A company like Google for example, *lets you turn off* tracking and
> history of all its products, if proved that they don't really turn it off
> then I'll sue them (even though I don't care, but it's matter of principals
> and some "privacy").
>
> What nobody can track is what's going on INSIDE my home, BETWEEN my
> friends, INSIDE my mind ... but let's see all the Google products you
> mentioned, what's the problem if they know my blogs, my videos that I watch,
> my Buzz, my email address, and even my location (via latitude), I'm not that
> famous to care :) (But again, if proved, I'll sue them).
>
> If I care about having a secret email, I'll never write something like
> "MySecretEmail = secret at top.secure" anywhere, isn't it?
>
> Finally you mentioned "ideas that I've debated (like this one)", if you
> don't use a GMail and someone in the list does, isn't that sound like Google
> got the information after all? the information is originally public and
> anyone can easily access it, the spiders before humans too.
>
> So basically, I don't see any reason make me want to live a secret agent,
> if anyone in the world is interested enough to sit next to me and see
> everything I do over my laptop, then he will be more than welcome, no
> problem for me ;-)
>
>
> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
> http://www.amahdy.net
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 20:37, Processing Qbits <processingqbits at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> As much as I appreciate and love having these debates, I have argued a lot
>> about this, that's why I provided two links to the posts I've written about
>> this matter.
>>
>> I completely agree with the idea of having more options, it's the reason I
>> support Diaspora over facebook and google+, it's the reason I don't want to
>> have all my data logged by one company and it is the reason that I fear, one
>> entity changes its views/sells its soul/or gets hacked, would endanger my
>> whole e-life.
>>
>> Google is a respectable company, it deserves all salutation from me, I'm
>> not pointing at it and saying it's a bad thing, neither am I holding a
>> "boycott google" mission here. What worries me most is one company having
>> all sorts of logs on me. One company that through it, they can know
>> everything about me, my name, DOB, emails, addresses, pictures, family
>> members, friends, friends of friends and their families, any secret emails
>> (one simply can't stop sending secrets online, sometimes you even send
>> something and wish to take it back), interests, videos that I've watched,
>> things that I've searched, ideas that I've debated (like this one), my
>> blogs, work that I've submitted, work that I'm thinking of submitting, ideas
>> that I want to work in.....if you tell me, all this doesn't matter....you're
>> just shutting your eyes
>>
>> Chromium OS to gmail to youtube, to google search engines, to google+, to
>> google maps, to google's android.....a lovely google integrated e-life, may
>> be for some, but for me, it'll always be my utmost fear, putting all my
>> private information in one bucket
>>
>> My solution, use a different OS if you're going to use gmail....use a
>> different search engine if you're using google+....use a different social
>> network if you're using google's android....mix things up a little bit....at
>> least yahoo won't know your private information while you search, google
>> won't differ between your family, friends and interests that much...facebook
>> won't know what you secretly say in emails....
>>
>> And yet again, you can look at my World War III theory....in the first
>> link
>>
>> Or read a very long debate that I already had on the subject...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <helghareeb at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> So, I believe this discussion is moving in two different, however
>>> parallel topics now:
>>> 1 - The idea of Google versus Others
>>> 2 - The idea of logging every single move we make online
>>>
>>> For the first Topic, You argue that Google is better than others. You are
>>> right to some extent, because Google took many initiatives 'you mentioned
>>> plenty of them', all of us respect Google, but I'm seriously worried because
>>> I think they are heading fast to the buckets part now. I prefer Google
>>> myself, with precautions.
>>>
>>> 2 - Regarding this point, I completely disagree. I don't agree to have
>>> every single activitiy of mine logged, just because they provide me the
>>> service. I'll not dig to the 'doing something wrong' so this doesn't turn
>>> personal, and I will not reply to this too. Logging every single action is
>>> something that is leading to places.... You know, may be you tell us what
>>> would you do with such data? Please, I'm interested to know if you hold this
>>> data, how would you benefit from it?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Haitham
>>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 08:39 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, exactly, and so what? if they log every single action I do over
>>> Internet (if proved I'll sue them) but I don't actually care and I don't
>>> understand why should someone care?
>>> In the other hand, my data is in one only hand that I cautiously relay
>>> -for now-, instead of duplicating my data across many companies...
>>>
>>> When you distribute something, it's better to distribute it over many
>>> baskets (don't put all your fortune in one bank, but many different banks,
>>> so that if one bank got robbed, you'll still have some money somewhere else)
>>>
>>> But when you just want to store information, it's better to keep it in
>>> one only place (when you store your credit card information in many
>>> merchants, the probability of getting it stolen increases, but when you use
>>> Google Checkout only (or paypal, or amazon, or ...etc) only for all your
>>> e-purchases, then it depends on your luck having this 3rd party hacked)
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>  <http://www.amahdy.net>http://www.amahdy.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:24, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I wasn't the one debating open/closed source. I was worried about
>>>> having all my information and actions logged by one company...google
>>>>
>>>> Remember our experience with a lot of power, in only one hand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz < <amahdy7 at gmail.com>
>>>> amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *sorry the *bank* was bankrupted...
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>> <http://www.amahdy.net>http://www.amahdy.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:18, Amahdy AbdElAziz < <amahdy7 at gmail.com>
>>>>> amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try at your own risk, there is no single guarantee that they will
>>>>>> remain "secret".
>>>>>> Sometimes we prefer sacrificing with something to get benefit and
>>>>>> advantage of something else, rule for the life not the "e-" section only :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - What if someone successfully hacked an internet banking server?
>>>>>> - What if someone successfully rubbed the central bank that holds your
>>>>>> money and the money was bankrupted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, it's a life-related rule, has nothing to do with Closed/Open
>>>>>> companies ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>  <http://www.amahdy.net>http://www.amahdy.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:09, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, unfortunately, my good fellow, your view of the electronic world
>>>>>>> seems very constricted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "You shouldn't do something secret over the web"....
>>>>>>> So you're against e-businesses including all forms of online
>>>>>>> transactions and ebanking, you're against confidential emails? Aren't all
>>>>>>> these forms of secrets to be kept hidden?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but this is not a strong argument for you at all, it's
>>>>>>> true that if one wants to keep a secret online, it might be very hard and at
>>>>>>> times close to impossible, but to not even try?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz <<amahdy7 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have many examples on why you shouldn't do something secret* over
>>>>>>>> the web*, even if you are using Open Source software built by you!
>>>>>>>> Here is some of them:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) You are sending and email to a close friend with sensitive
>>>>>>>> information along with general information, he accidentally publicly share
>>>>>>>> the email.
>>>>>>>> [[For example you send some love words to your fiancée and a picture
>>>>>>>> of a flower, she liked that flower that she shared the email over Facebook,,
>>>>>>>> so embarrassing]]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) You send an email to seomone "A" and BCC someone else "B", "B"
>>>>>>>> replies to all...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) You are sending sensitive information over chat, and due to some
>>>>>>>> bug, the information is sent to someone else!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) You are storing your secrets on your own server and it got
>>>>>>>> hacked!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5) You decided to encrypt your own secret data and store them on the
>>>>>>>> server, someone was able to predict your password after hacking your server
>>>>>>>> (happens)...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>>>  <http://www.amahdy.net>http://www.amahdy.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 18:46, Amahdy AbdElAziz <<amahdy7 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay so are you afraid from having someone tracking you or keeping
>>>>>>>>> a log of what you are doing? why should you be afraid from that, are you
>>>>>>>>> doing something wrong? if you don't want someone know what you are doing
>>>>>>>>> then IMHO you shouldn't be doing it from the beginning, specially, over the
>>>>>>>>> web!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want to use a Canonical-hosted mail server instead of
>>>>>>>>> Google-hosted one, so how can you guarantee that Canonical won't one day
>>>>>>>>> keep log of your emails, not all of us can buy and configure his own mail
>>>>>>>>> server, and if it's not a physical server at your home (e.g. you have your
>>>>>>>>> own server managed by some hosting company) then you can't guarantee that
>>>>>>>>> this hosting company is not spying on you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So again if you are doing something wrong then stop doing it, I
>>>>>>>>> don't mean any of you is doing something wrong, but I'm just explaining my
>>>>>>>>> point...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We all need all the time someone to manage some parts of our life,
>>>>>>>>> we can't do everything all the time, so we need to relay on someone to do
>>>>>>>>> that for us, for example I can't pen trace all the Ubuntu code to make sure
>>>>>>>>> that there isn't a back door somewhere, so I have to relay on some others
>>>>>>>>> who did so (who knows maybe they are paid to stay calm?? ,, I don't care,
>>>>>>>>> simply because all what I'm doing on my laptop is open to everybody, I have
>>>>>>>>> no problem on that).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like Google -for now- because they believe in the Open Source,
>>>>>>>>> they started many many many Open Source projects along with their patches
>>>>>>>>> for Open Source projects like the Linux Kernel, the Ubuntu project itself,
>>>>>>>>> and many other small and big projects (Eclipse, Apache, Mozilla, KDE, Gnome,
>>>>>>>>> Drupal, and many much more) [[Yes they are still submitting patches for
>>>>>>>>> Firefox too!]]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also like the data liberation concept that Google has, the data
>>>>>>>>> ownership to the user, but I also agree at the end of the day that we should
>>>>>>>>> be cautious, if we don't like something then we can simply raise our hands
>>>>>>>>> and let them know and it's proven that they respond (so far).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personly, I completely understand that any company needs "Money" to
>>>>>>>>> survive and continue innovation, so I don't mind that Google collect some
>>>>>>>>> bucks from here and there so that they can deliver the quality that I want.
>>>>>>>>> They actually helped me a lot with this new product G+, so that I'm finally
>>>>>>>>> able to have a e-social life.
>>>>>>>>> BTW, this applied also for SUN, and currently apply also for IBM,
>>>>>>>>> RedHat, FixedSolutions, and many similar Companies that believe and
>>>>>>>>> encourage the OpenSource and need to collect some bucks at the same time!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the long email, but I'd like also to mention one small
>>>>>>>>> experience:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - I like the fact that when I post something "Public" at G+,
>>>>>>>>> everybody that uses Internet can see it, event if he doesn't have a Gmail
>>>>>>>>> account. But something like Facebook won't show more than my profile
>>>>>>>>> picture, some of my interests, and a box asking to Sign Up first! (Hey, it's
>>>>>>>>> my data that I want to share with everybody, not yours to block it from
>>>>>>>>> people!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>>>>  <http://www.amahdy.net>http://www.amahdy.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 16:04, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Checking, Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:51 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are a lot that we can do....Don't keep all your eggs in one
>>>>>>>>>> basket...And there is no need to actually put all the eggs in baskets, some
>>>>>>>>>> eggs are better kept in the nest
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and there is nothing we can do, right? I wish I can stay away
>>>>>>>>>>> from facebook, Google +, or twitter but I can't. All my friends, students,
>>>>>>>>>>> and social life is there now. Just feeling so confused about that. Wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>> share it here :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:39 PM, "Jonathan N. Hindi" <<jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.hindi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +Islam Hassan, You are very right :)
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> *Jonathan N. Hindi
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/7/1 Islam Hassan < <eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  You forgot to mention the most two scary things about Google:
>>>>>>>>>>>> First, Google Chrome OS depends completely on the cloud, that means every
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing related to you is on Google servers. Second Google Android @ home &
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Android Open Accessory, Google will control every thing in your
>>>>>>>>>>>> house. After watching Google IO day one keynote, what I had in mind was
>>>>>>>>>>>> Umbrella from resident evil and USR's VIKI from I,Robot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Online Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: <helghareeb at gmail.com> <helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:29:11 +0300
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com> <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ahmed Toulan +1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes this is what I meant, and sorry for the late reply. We are
>>>>>>>>>>>> gathering to show the evilness of one vendor, that is Microsoft, and there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is another one 'Google' is trying hardly to catch everywhere it can, OS,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail, Social Media, Web browser, everywhere. That can't be right !!! It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> like I'm surrounded with Google everywhere, till now no one has anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> against Google, just I'm so worried that we are being caught.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:10 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why I believe more in Diaspora
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Ahmed Kamal <<email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> um but "Google lets you save a backup of your photos, profile
>>>>>>>>>>>> information, contacts, circles, stream posts, and Buzz posts to your
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer" on  <https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata doesn't sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> too bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ahmed Toulan <<thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thelinuxer at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I think what he meant was that we are doing a different
>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of vendor locking badro. Like you were locked to the windows platform
>>>>>>>>>>>> one day, today you'll be locked inside the Google platform. And this is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> real serious issue if you ask me, a real valid concern...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't get that, would you be so kind as to elaborate more?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets hope not, I'm completely disappointed with this product,
>>>>>>>>>>>> not from features side, but from the Open Web side, it's really getting
>>>>>>>>>>>> serious that we are moving from a single Microsoft, to plenty of it!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 03:13 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google is putting up a strong fight against facebook...Diaspora
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Google+
>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually have more faith in Diaspora, although it seems that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google+ will be ready before it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/7/1 Islam Hassan < <eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Right now many of us don't have access to google+, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> gonna be awesome to use it when it goes public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:44:06 +0300
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Online Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com> <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thelinuxer at ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com> <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think we might use it in the future
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have access to Google+ too...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Mohamed El-Feky <<elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> elfeky.m at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jonathan N. Hindi <<jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.hindi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that all the team have access to Google+ ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Jonathan N. Hindi
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Karim Ahmed <<just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just.azzurri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's a good idea if we organize Online Meeting at
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google+ via Hangouts :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> so what's your opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Karim Ahmed,*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Google **student ambassador *
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