Online Meeting

Fri Jul 1 17:24:35 UTC 2011

Well, I wasn't the one debating open/closed source. I was worried about
having all my information and actions logged by one company...google

Remember our experience with a lot of power, in only one hand

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> *sorry the *bank* was bankrupted...
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> http://www.amahdy.net
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> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:18, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Try at your own risk, there is no single guarantee that they will remain
>> "secret".
>> Sometimes we prefer sacrificing with something to get benefit and
>> advantage of something else, rule for the life not the "e-" section only :)
>>
>> - What if someone successfully hacked an internet banking server?
>> - What if someone successfully rubbed the central bank that holds your
>> money and the money was bankrupted?
>>
>> See, it's a life-related rule, has nothing to do with Closed/Open
>> companies ;-)
>>
>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>> http://www.amahdy.net
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>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 19:09, Processing Qbits <processingqbits at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, unfortunately, my good fellow, your view of the electronic world
>>> seems very constricted.
>>>
>>> "You shouldn't do something secret over the web"....
>>> So you're against e-businesses including all forms of online transactions
>>> and ebanking, you're against confidential emails? Aren't all these forms of
>>> secrets to be kept hidden?
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, but this is not a strong argument for you at all, it's true
>>> that if one wants to keep a secret online, it might be very hard and at
>>> times close to impossible, but to not even try?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have many examples on why you shouldn't do something secret* over the
>>>> web*, even if you are using Open Source software built by you! Here is
>>>> some of them:
>>>>
>>>> 1) You are sending and email to a close friend with sensitive
>>>> information along with general information, he accidentally publicly share
>>>> the email.
>>>> [[For example you send some love words to your fiancée and a picture of
>>>> a flower, she liked that flower that she shared the email over Facebook,, so
>>>> embarrassing]]
>>>>
>>>> 2) You send an email to seomone "A" and BCC someone else "B", "B"
>>>> replies to all...
>>>>
>>>> 3) You are sending sensitive information over chat, and due to some bug,
>>>> the information is sent to someone else!
>>>>
>>>> 4) You are storing your secrets on your own server and it got hacked!!
>>>>
>>>> 5) You decided to encrypt your own secret data and store them on the
>>>> server, someone was able to predict your password after hacking your server
>>>> (happens)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>> http://www.amahdy.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 18:46, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay so are you afraid from having someone tracking you or keeping a
>>>>> log of what you are doing? why should you be afraid from that, are you doing
>>>>> something wrong? if you don't want someone know what you are doing then IMHO
>>>>> you shouldn't be doing it from the beginning, specially, over the web!
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to use a Canonical-hosted mail server instead of
>>>>> Google-hosted one, so how can you guarantee that Canonical won't one day
>>>>> keep log of your emails, not all of us can buy and configure his own mail
>>>>> server, and if it's not a physical server at your home (e.g. you have your
>>>>> own server managed by some hosting company) then you can't guarantee that
>>>>> this hosting company is not spying on you.
>>>>>
>>>>> So again if you are doing something wrong then stop doing it, I don't
>>>>> mean any of you is doing something wrong, but I'm just explaining my
>>>>> point...
>>>>>
>>>>> We all need all the time someone to manage some parts of our life, we
>>>>> can't do everything all the time, so we need to relay on someone to do that
>>>>> for us, for example I can't pen trace all the Ubuntu code to make sure that
>>>>> there isn't a back door somewhere, so I have to relay on some others who did
>>>>> so (who knows maybe they are paid to stay calm?? ,, I don't care, simply
>>>>> because all what I'm doing on my laptop is open to everybody, I have no
>>>>> problem on that).
>>>>>
>>>>> I like Google -for now- because they believe in the Open Source, they
>>>>> started many many many Open Source projects along with their patches for
>>>>> Open Source projects like the Linux Kernel, the Ubuntu project itself, and
>>>>> many other small and big projects (Eclipse, Apache, Mozilla, KDE, Gnome,
>>>>> Drupal, and many much more) [[Yes they are still submitting patches for
>>>>> Firefox too!]]
>>>>>
>>>>> I also like the data liberation concept that Google has, the data
>>>>> ownership to the user, but I also agree at the end of the day that we should
>>>>> be cautious, if we don't like something then we can simply raise our hands
>>>>> and let them know and it's proven that they respond (so far).
>>>>>
>>>>> Personly, I completely understand that any company needs "Money" to
>>>>> survive and continue innovation, so I don't mind that Google collect some
>>>>> bucks from here and there so that they can deliver the quality that I want.
>>>>> They actually helped me a lot with this new product G+, so that I'm finally
>>>>> able to have a e-social life.
>>>>> BTW, this applied also for SUN, and currently apply also for IBM,
>>>>> RedHat, FixedSolutions, and many similar Companies that believe and
>>>>> encourage the OpenSource and need to collect some bucks at the same time!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the long email, but I'd like also to mention one small
>>>>> experience:
>>>>>
>>>>> - I like the fact that when I post something "Public" at G+, everybody
>>>>> that uses Internet can see it, event if he doesn't have a Gmail account. But
>>>>> something like Facebook won't show more than my profile picture, some of my
>>>>> interests, and a box asking to Sign Up first! (Hey, it's my data that I want
>>>>> to share with everybody, not yours to block it from people!!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>> http://www.amahdy.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 16:04, Haitham El-Ghareeb <helghareeb at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Checking, Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:51 PM, Processing Qbits <
>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are a lot that we can do....Don't keep all your eggs in one
>>>>>> basket...And there is no need to actually put all the eggs in baskets, some
>>>>>> eggs are better kept in the nest
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and there is nothing we can do, right? I wish I can stay away from
>>>>>>> facebook, Google +, or twitter but I can't. All my friends, students, and
>>>>>>> social life is there now. Just feeling so confused about that. Wanted to
>>>>>>> share it here :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:39 PM, "Jonathan N. Hindi" <<jonathan.hindi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> jonathan.hindi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +Islam Hassan, You are very right :)
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>> *Jonathan N. Hindi
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011/7/1 Islam Hassan < <eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  You forgot to mention the most two scary things about Google:
>>>>>>>> First, Google Chrome OS depends completely on the cloud, that means every
>>>>>>>> thing related to you is on Google servers. Second Google Android @ home &
>>>>>>>> Google Android Open Accessory, Google will control every thing in your
>>>>>>>> house. After watching Google IO day one keynote, what I had in mind was
>>>>>>>> Umbrella from resident evil and USR's VIKI from I,Robot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Online Meeting
>>>>>>>> From: <helghareeb at gmail.com> <helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:29:11 +0300
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com> <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>> ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Ahmed Toulan +1
>>>>>>>> Yes this is what I meant, and sorry for the late reply. We are
>>>>>>>> gathering to show the evilness of one vendor, that is Microsoft, and there
>>>>>>>> is another one 'Google' is trying hardly to catch everywhere it can, OS,
>>>>>>>> Mail, Social Media, Web browser, everywhere. That can't be right !!! It's
>>>>>>>> like I'm surrounded with Google everywhere, till now no one has anything
>>>>>>>> against Google, just I'm so worried that we are being caught.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:10 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's why I believe more in Diaspora
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Ahmed Kamal <<email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>> email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> um but "Google lets you save a backup of your photos, profile
>>>>>>>> information, contacts, circles, stream posts, and Buzz posts to your
>>>>>>>> computer" on  <https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata>
>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata doesn't sound too
>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ahmed Toulan <<thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>> thelinuxer at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well I think what he meant was that we are doing a different kind of
>>>>>>>> vendor locking badro. Like you were locked to the windows platform one day,
>>>>>>>> today you'll be locked inside the Google platform. And this is a real
>>>>>>>> serious issue if you ask me, a real valid concern...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't get that, would you be so kind as to elaborate more?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets hope not, I'm completely disappointed with this product, not
>>>>>>>> from features side, but from the Open Web side, it's really getting serious
>>>>>>>> that we are moving from a single Microsoft, to plenty of it!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 03:13 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Google is putting up a strong fight against facebook...Diaspora and
>>>>>>>> Google+
>>>>>>>> I actually have more faith in Diaspora, although it seems that
>>>>>>>> Google+ will be ready before it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2011/7/1 Islam Hassan < <eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Right now many of us don't have access to google+, but it's gonna
>>>>>>>> be awesome to use it when it goes public.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:44:06 +0300
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Online Meeting
>>>>>>>> From: <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com> <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>> thelinuxer at ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>> To: <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com> <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>> ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Personally I think we might use it in the future
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't have access to Google+ too...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Mohamed El-Feky <<elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> elfeky.m at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jonathan N. Hindi <<jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> jonathan.hindi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think that all the team have access to Google+ ?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>>> *Jonathan N. Hindi
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Karim Ahmed <<just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> just.azzurri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it's a good idea if we organize Online Meeting at Google+
>>>>>>>> via Hangouts :)
>>>>>>>> so what's your opinions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Karim Ahmed,*
>>>>>>>> *Google **student ambassador *
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