Noticeboard?

Pasi Lallinaho pasi at shimmerproject.org
Wed Jun 8 14:47:22 UTC 2016


On 2016-06-08 17:16, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> On 2016-06-08 15:18, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
>> Again, the problem isn't with spambots, it's about microworkers (or
>> Mechnical Turks) who are able to pass many spam-preventing measures
>> much easier. Especially if we tell them how they can do that.
>>
>> Ultimately it comes down to telling apart a legimitate contributor
>> and somebody who fakes to be one.
> Pasi, both what you say above, and what Elisabeth said in another
> message, imply that the community is no longer able to grant edit access
> to serious community members, since we don't have the means to
> distinguish them from vandals. Is that what you are saying? Did the
> vandals win?

I'm not saying anybody has won.

I'm one of the administrators of the Etherpad team, and while that team 
was enabled to edit the wiki, I did some moderation. While there are 
clear cases where somebody is or is not a legimitate contributor, there 
are definintely cases where this is not clear at all.

Having to manually figure this out infinitely is not something I am 
willing to do, and it's not realistic to think that there are enough 
community members to do this sustainably enough. This is what me and 
Elizabeth are saying, both with experience on the moderation.

Anyway, I was originally responding to Albertos idea of telling the 
world what the applicants need to do in order to get approved to a team 
that grants them edit permissions. If we do this, I can assure you the 
moderation queue will definitely be even longer than it is now, and we 
will be pouring even more work into the moderation.

If we're struggling to find contributors to do documentation work, how 
would we suddenly find contributors to moderate?

Cheers,
Pasi

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Pasi Lallinaho (knome)       › http://open.knome.fi/
Leader of Shimmer Project    › http://shimmerproject.org/
Xubuntu Website Lead         › http://xubuntu.org/




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