Suggestion re the possible creation of a smaller "TitleIndex" Wiki page.

Sat Feb 2 21:30:52 UTC 2013

Hi, you can use little sign posts or a page such as this[1] to give an over
view. The problem is, as always, which sections belong into which catagory.

Regards,
Phill.
1. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation

On 2 February 2013 15:00, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi :)
> Oops, we have gone off-list!  I'm coping this back to the list this time.
>
> Sub-pages would be like
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex/Accessibility
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex/Games
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex/Office
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex/Wireless
> then the main page would only need about a dozen categories that take
> people to the appropriate sub-page.
>
> Normally it's best to avoid changing font size and stuff like that except
> for headings.  After yuou have become a bit more familiar you can do
> alsorts of fancy things but it's best to start off as simply as possible.
> The template is best kept as the standard one in order to keep pages
> consistent.  Once you get really advanced you realise it's still best to
> return to keeping it as simple as possible, lol.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
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> *From:* Geoff Smith <taurusone at optusnet.com.au>
> *To:* Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 2 February 2013, 18:56
> *Subject:* Re: Suggestion re the possible creation of a smaller
> "TitleIndex" Wiki page.
>
>  Hi Tom :)
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Here is the link to the current page -
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex
>
> I think that I would only be interested in alphabetical notations with
> perhaps numbering alongside the items like in this example -
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpIndex - I think having the numbers would help
> in the forums help situation where a member making an enquiry could be
> pointed in the right direction by quoting a number. You mention almost
> anyone on this list could give a hand - what list is that Tom ?
>
> I would be prepared to start creating a page from scratch but would
> appreciate your input with -
> 1. The best Template to use ?
> 2. Could a name on the new page be changed to something other than the
> original one selected ?
> 3. Is it possible to change the font size ?
> 4. Any further tips appreciated.
>
> Thanks very much for all of your help Tom. BTW where are you located ? I
> am in Melbourne Australia.
>
> With Regards,
> Geoff :)
>
> On 03/02/13 05:10, Tom Davies wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> Sorry it took longer this time.  That is pretty much the way it goes.
> There is no need to apologise for slower responses as i'm sure we all have
> other things going on.  Forums and email threads are good because they
> remind us of what the issue was about and how far we had got.
>
>  I like your idea of asking for input from the Forums Cafe.  Also your
> idea of leaving the current Title/Index intact and just providing a shorter
> alternative.  One of the items in the shorter index could be to the fuller
> one.
>
> Editing a wiki-page is fairly easy as it's mostly just like writing an
> email.  You just add the text.  Making the text into links is not hugely
> tough either but other people could help with that after they can see where
> you are going with the page.  If you need a hand to just create the a blank
> wiki-page then that is really easy for almost anyone on this list.
>
> If you can you give a link to the index that is too long then i might be
> able to suggest some ways of breaking it down into sub-pages but i think
> your route is better.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Geoff Smith <taurusone at optusnet.com.au><taurusone at optusnet.com.au>
> *To:* Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 2 February 2013, 15:12
> *Subject:* Re: Suggestion re the possible creation of a smaller
> "TitleIndex" Wiki page.
>
>  Hi Tom,
>
> Your very quick response is very much appreciated :)
>
> I will need to do a little thinking about your suggestions. I saw the
> situation as being the majority of users with documentation links would
> just have them as I do - I only have 62. Many users would have links
> similar to mine - It was my idea to basically appeal to the majority by
> having a second list available. It would be be a considerable advantage to
> have those links on one Bookmark, but not if it takes 22 seconds to load.
> (I don't know if that would be the norm or not).
> I am a simple 69 year old man, and your suggestions of sub pages confuses
> me a little, unless you simply mean by "Letters". The alphabetical links at
> the top of the page I consider good.
> I am prepared to post a thread in the Forums Cafe, asking for suggested
> links - I have no idea what sort of response I would get, but if it worked
> I could certainly provide a list of the links.
> 1. What input would you require me to do other that what I have outlined ?
> 2. Creating a Page myself would take some time because of the learning
> curve.
> 3. Having said that, I am prepared to put in whatever time it took.
> 4. Do you think my idea of a thread in the Cafe is a good one?
>
> Digest what I have said Tom and get back to me at your convenience.
> Your lightening response is really appreciated - I apologize for the delay
> in my getting back to you!
>
> With kind regards,
> Geoff :)
>
>
> On 03/02/13 01:39, Tom Davies wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> So the page needs to be broken down into sub-pages.  Each category gets
> it's own sub-page.  Do you have a plan or is the problem too large to
> figure out?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Geoff Smith <taurusone at optusnet.com.au><taurusone at optusnet.com.au>
> *To:* ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, 2 February 2013, 13:56
> *Subject:* Suggestion re the possible creation of a smaller "TitleIndex"
> Wiki page.
>
> Hello,
>
> I don't know if this email is going to the right address or not, however
> please advise if it is not the case.
>
> In case the address is O.K. I will outline my suggestion anyway. I made an
> embarrassing faux pas in the Ubuntu Forums when I suggested that there was
> a need for a Documentation Contents Wiki, not knowing that a Title Index
> already existed.
>
> However this index does not completely fulfil the requirements that I had
> in mind. As an example, I have about 62 Documentation pages on my computer,
> those being the ones I most refer to, either for my own purposes or to post
> links in the forums. My idea of having a Documentation Contents Wiki would
> mean all links in the page would eliminate the need for these addresses to
> be Bookmarked separately. One Bookmarked address however may not prove
> ideal for the present Title Index in my opinion. I found on my computer
> that it took 22 seconds to load initially.
>
> I see the ideal number of links on such a page for me would be perhaps
> between 100 and 120. I would be interested in knowing the present number of
> links on the page. As an exercise I was thinking of creating a Wiki page
> with less links in it. I considered that I could possibly post a thread on
> the Forums Cafe to measure the worth of such an idea and to possibly
> collect a list of popular Pages. It would be a learning process for me if I
> was to attempt such a task.
>
> Another problem (for me anyway) is that I find the present Title Index
> hard to read. Perhaps with a larger font the lesser number of titles could
> be accommodated ? My last question relates to which template was used for
> the present Title Index.
>
> I trust this suggestion is going to the right place.
>
> With kind regards,
> Geoff Smith.
>
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