[wiki] Move instead of delete?

[Jonathan Aquilina]

Then in that case why not move the older pages to a wiki archive?


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Tom Davies <tomcecf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi :)
> I really like this idea!  [tips hat at Elizabeth and Gunnar]
>
> Changing the page to a redirect and then having that redirect go to a
> common page that explains the situation, and how to get at the
> information that used to be on the page (via history) seems to cover
> most good reasons for reluctance to delete.
>
> I think 1 of the concerns is that over the years people might have a
> stock-pile of useful bookmarks, or links that appear in old magazine
> articles or even some links from other pages would be broken if the
> page really was deleted or moved.  Redirects is a brilliant idea
> because it retains everything, including context.
>
> Previously i had been a fan of moving the pages and using the
> robots.txt would have been a brilliant finesse but i worried about
> possibly losing the history and breaking external links into our
> documentation.  Sorry Jonathan!
>
> Would it be possible to create a list of the pages that were handled
> this way and the date that they were set as redirects?  Maybe a space
> for people to add comments?  I think it would take quite a long time
> to really notice if such pages really hadn't caused any problems and
> thus really were suitable for deletion.  Perhaps more like a couple of
> years rather than 6 months!  Having the list and showing the dates
> would make that easier to track.
>
> Another advantage of this system might be that in the future people
> feel more comfortable about effectively getting rid of pages in this
> way, allowing much more rampant pruning.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> On 16 December 2013 02:58, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > On 2013-12-16 03:35, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote:
> >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <
> gunnarhj at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >>> On 2013-12-16 02:41, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Format:
> >>>>
> >>>> #REDIRECT PageName
> >>>
> >>> It sounds like that would serve the same purpose in an easier way. Are
> >>> such redirects permanent HTTP redirects, so the URL of a 'deleted' page
> >>> is removed from the search engine indexes?
> >>
> >> Good question! It's a "301 Moved Permanently" so yes, it should be
> >> removed from search indexes once the redirect is set up.
> >
> > Nice! Then how about creating
> >
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageDeleted
> >
> > basically saying that the page the visitor tried to reach has been
> > deleted, and informing them on how to contact the team for the case they
> > want to request that it is resurrected?
> >
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> >
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