<div dir="ltr">Then in that case why not move the older pages to a wiki archive? </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Tom Davies <<a href="mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomcecf@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi :) I really like this idea! [tips hat at Elizabeth and Gunnar] Changing the page to a redirect and then having that redirect go to a common page that explains the situation, and how to get at the information that used to be on the page (via history) seems to cover most good reasons for reluctance to delete. I think 1 of the concerns is that over the years people might have a stock-pile of useful bookmarks, or links that appear in old magazine articles or even some links from other pages would be broken if the page really was deleted or moved. Redirects is a brilliant idea because it retains everything, including context. Previously i had been a fan of moving the pages and using the robots.txt would have been a brilliant finesse but i worried about possibly losing the history and breaking external links into our documentation. Sorry Jonathan! Would it be possible to create a list of the pages that were handled this way and the date that they were set as redirects? Maybe a space for people to add comments? I think it would take quite a long time to really notice if such pages really hadn't caused any problems and thus really were suitable for deletion. Perhaps more like a couple of years rather than 6 months! Having the list and showing the dates would make that easier to track. Another advantage of this system might be that in the future people feel more comfortable about effectively getting rid of pages in this way, allowing much more rampant pruning. Regards from Tom :) On 16 December 2013 02:58, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > On 2013-12-16 03:35, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>> On 2013-12-16 02:41, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote: >>>> >>>> Format: >>>> >>>> #REDIRECT PageName >>> >>> It sounds like that would serve the same purpose in an easier way. Are >>> such redirects permanent HTTP redirects, so the URL of a 'deleted' page >>> is removed from the search engine indexes? >> >> Good question! It's a "301 Moved Permanently" so yes, it should be >> removed from search indexes once the redirect is set up. > > Nice! Then how about creating > > <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageDeleted" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageDeleted</a> > > basically saying that the page the visitor tried to reach has been > deleted, and informing them on how to contact the team for the case they > want to request that it is resurrected? > > -- > Gunnar Hjalmarsson > <a href="https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj</a> > > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc</a> -- ubuntu-doc mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc</a> </blockquote></div> -- Jonathan Aquilina </div>