[wish-list] let kubuntu-docs get the kubuntu.org theme love

Ryan Kavanagh ryanakca at kubuntu.org
Mon Aug 9 14:05:32 UTC 2010


On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 08:05:43AM +0100, Matthew East wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Phillip Whiteside <phillw at phillw.net> wrote:
> > I'm glad to see that kubuntu is alive and kicking. If I may be so bold as to
> > suggest you have your documents over at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com area.
> >  I'm a lubuntu user, but do have fond memories of knoppix and I do read good
> > things about kubuntu. I've been herding / creating documents over
> > at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu I am a great believer in that it is
> > resource wasteful to have various documents posted in different areas as it
> > is a nightmare to keep all versions up to date and causes confusion for the
> > people looking for help.

Hi Phil, I may have misunderstood you, but https://wiki.kubuntu.org and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com are the same wiki, the only difference is the theme
rendered depending on the domain it's accessed with.

> As to (1), I think it would be great to update the theme for the
> Kubuntu documentation to bring it in line with the new website. Is
> anyone interested in working on that? I'd be happy to review any patch
> to the theme code and to give pointers as to where the relevant files
> can be found in the lp:kubuntu-docs bzr branch.

I believe Richard Johnson <nixternal at ubuntu.com> has been working on this for
several releases. I've copied him in.

> As to (2), if derivatives of Ubuntu would like to set up their own
> website, I think that is reasonable too. I wonder if we could
> investigate a way of using help.ubuntu.com for this purpose, given
> that Ubuntu and Kubuntu collaborate so closely on documentation and
> have a single core team with access to both sets of documentation, it
> would make sense to try and use that website, but perhaps implement a
> system whereby help.kubuntu.org goes to the same place too so that
> Kubuntu has its own dedicated url for help. That would be similar to
> the system used for wiki.kubuntu.org.

I'm not familiar with (K)Ubuntu documentation. If I understand/understood
correctly, it was a pile of Docbook files that got generated into HTML files to
(a) get shipped in a package and (b) get placed on help.ubuntu.com? Once we
finish (1), I don't think it would be too hard to convince the sysadmins to
setup help.kubuntu.org/ and plop Kubuntu's documentation there.

If we want to create a help.kubuntu.org/community , the sysadmins can be prodded
for that too and we can use the current Kubuntu wiki theme from wiki.kubuntu.org
on it until it gets updated to the new www.kubuntu.org theme.

Let me know if I correctly understood what you're asking.

> I recall that someone in the Kubuntu team had worked on a help wiki
> theme similar to the one used on the Ubuntu help wiki. I think it was
> Ryan Kavanagh so I've copied him in. Ryan, is that initiative still
> active? What stage did it get to?

Yep, I ported your help.ubuntu.com/community theme to wiki.kubuntu.org and made
it default . www.kubuntu.org has recently changed themes, as far as I know, work
hasn't yet been started on porting its theme to wiki.kubuntu.org .


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