ubuntu-doc Digest, Vol 61, Issue 24

Sumit Nanchahal sumitnanchahal at gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 13:05:15 UTC 2009

Regarding the karmic koala, I reckon that the release is at the very right
time and is building a huge excitement among ubuntu fans, here. is there
gonna be Wine preinstalled in 9.10 also I am looking forward to some
improvements in Gimp, like job jackets which allow multiple users to work on
one document, some thing like in Quarkxpress, which is a page layout

By the way, can somebody kindly send me a copy of karmic koala, the ship it
website says I cannot have any more cd's shipped.  got 5 cd's of jaunty from
there.  shipping address
House No 4088-C Sector 37-C Central Excise colony Chandigarh India 160036

Regards & best wishes

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>   1. Re: Startup help screens are not in the area where
>      documentation team        works? (Alexey Balmashnov)
>   2. Thought that could do with blueprinting: Juicier release
>      notes (Dylan McCall)
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> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:07:46 +0200
> From: Alexey Balmashnov <a.balmashnov at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Startup help screens are not in the area where
>        documentation team      works?
> To: Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com>
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> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > Hi Alexey,
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Alexey Balmashnov
> > <a.balmashnov at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Who is "responsible" then?
> >>
> >> Please see:
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/448647
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/448609
> >
> > I don't know whether anyone is "responsible" for that package, but the
> > bug is filed in the right place.
> >
> > If you think that any particular bug is something that the docteam
> > should look at, feel free to subscribe the team, but the assigned
> > field is different: that's for a person or team which will actively
> > work on fixing the bug. It should generally only be set by the person
> > or team who is going to take on the bug (except in exceptional cases).
> > That's not the case here: we don't work on the debian-installer
> > package.
> Matthew, thanks for clarification and the suggestion. As I feel that
> documentation team should look at those bugs I subscribed the team as
> suggested. Although, I am not sure right now who and when may fix
> them. And it looks like checking of the documentation/help is not part
> of the QA activities at least for the debian-installer at the moment.
> And we now in the freeze, so update of those strings will need an
> exception. Things are so complicated nowadays ;)
> Regards,
> Alexey Balmashnov
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:51:02 -0700
> From: Dylan McCall <dylanmccall at gmail.com>
> Subject: Thought that could do with blueprinting: Juicier release
>        notes
> To: Ubuntu Documentation Team List <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hi,
> Ahead of myself a bit here, but one problem I noticed a lot of during
> the Karmic alphas (and earlier, really) is that the people testing the
> release are often in the dark about why things are as they are, where
> feedback is particularly appreciated and where things are going.
> If we look at the release notes for the alphas, it is fairly evident why
> that is happening:
> <http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4>
> Now, this works - it mentions a few big details like Ubuntu One, the
> software store and the important known issues. I like how the new boot
> experience was introduced in the release notes :)
> However, I think more things could be done for Lucid...
> Here is some stuff that I think should have appeared in the release
> notes at some point:
>      * As an experiment, many icons have been removed from menus and
>        buttons. We intend to only use icons for objects like files and
>        applications. If you see an exception to this pattern, please
>        file a bug report. Please leave feedback on the experiment
>        [somewhere].
>      * It is under consideration to disable tap to click by default on
>        most laptop touch pads. That behaviour will be introduced soon.
>        Users will need to use the hard buttons beside the touch pads.
>        This is to avoid issues where one could accidentally brush the
>        touch pad while typing. It is now really easy to configure the
>        touchpad via System -> Preferences -> Mouse. Please let us know
>        about this change [somewhere].
>      * The login screen (GDM) has been upgraded to version 2.28, which
>        is a complete rewrite from that shipped in previous versions of
>        Ubuntu. As a result, full fledged configuration tools are not
>        yet available for it but we have made a tool to change the most
>        important options. However, it is a much more shiny and
>        integrated experience :)
>      * Services Administration has been removed because...
> It makes sense to explain the technical reason behind changes here, and
> to explain whether they are temporary, required for something else or
> could be fixed with a helping hand. Otherwise, we end up with users
> feeling lost, getting angry about experiments (because lots of people
> assume we don't listen, when in fact the purpose of many changes that
> feel like useless regressions is we _want_ them to give feedback) and
> generally being less constructive than they could be if we gave them the
> right information in a central place.
> To accommodate this, it would also make a lot of sense to have two
> different release notes pages (or maybe a fancy collapsing container via
> Javascript), to get server and desktop changes detached from each other,
> simply to be more readable, maybe with Known Issues and Download shared
> between the two.
> Another possibility is an official news page (blog style, with an RSS
> feed) for the development release :)
> Bye,
> Dylan McCall
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