<div>Hi </div> <div>Regarding the karmic koala, I reckon that the release is at the very right time and is building a huge excitement among ubuntu fans, here. is there gonna be Wine preinstalled in 9.10 also I am looking forward to some improvements in Gimp, like job jackets which allow multiple users to work on one document, some thing like in Quarkxpress, which is a page layout software. </div> <div> </div> <div>By the way, can somebody kindly send me a copy of karmic koala, the ship it website says I cannot have any more cd's shipped. got 5 cd's of jaunty from there. shipping address</div> <div>House No 4088-C Sector 37-C Central Excise colony Chandigarh India 160036</div> <div> </div> <div>Regards & best wishes</div> <div>sumit</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>On 10/19/09, <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Send ubuntu-doc mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-doc digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Startup help screens are not in the area where documentation team works? (Alexey Balmashnov) 2. Thought that could do with blueprinting: Juicier release notes (Dylan McCall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:07:46 +0200 From: Alexey Balmashnov <<a href="mailto:a.balmashnov@gmail.com">a.balmashnov@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Startup help screens are not in the area where documentation team works? To: Matthew East <<a href="mailto:mdke@ubuntu.com">mdke@ubuntu.com</a>> Cc: Ubuntu Doc Lists <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:e06e213d0910180607kb815dc5ne43d08c5898864bd@mail.gmail.com">e06e213d0910180607kb815dc5ne43d08c5898864bd@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Matthew East <<a href="mailto:mdke@ubuntu.com">mdke@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > Hi Alexey, > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Alexey Balmashnov > <<a href="mailto:a.balmashnov@gmail.com">a.balmashnov@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> Who is "responsible" then? >> >> Please see: >> <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/448647">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/448647</a> >> <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/448609">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/448609</a> > > I don't know whether anyone is "responsible" for that package, but the > bug is filed in the right place. > > If you think that any particular bug is something that the docteam > should look at, feel free to subscribe the team, but the assigned > field is different: that's for a person or team which will actively > work on fixing the bug. It should generally only be set by the person > or team who is going to take on the bug (except in exceptional cases). > That's not the case here: we don't work on the debian-installer > package. Matthew, thanks for clarification and the suggestion. As I feel that documentation team should look at those bugs I subscribed the team as suggested. Although, I am not sure right now who and when may fix them. And it looks like checking of the documentation/help is not part of the QA activities at least for the debian-installer at the moment. And we now in the freeze, so update of those strings will need an exception. Things are so complicated nowadays ;) Regards, Alexey Balmashnov ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:51:02 -0700 From: Dylan McCall <<a href="mailto:dylanmccall@gmail.com">dylanmccall@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Thought that could do with blueprinting: Juicier release notes To: Ubuntu Documentation Team List <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <1255884662.21965.52.camel@dylan-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Ahead of myself a bit here, but one problem I noticed a lot of during the Karmic alphas (and earlier, really) is that the people testing the release are often in the dark about why things are as they are, where feedback is particularly appreciated and where things are going. If we look at the release notes for the alphas, it is fairly evident why that is happening: <<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4">http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4</a>> Now, this works - it mentions a few big details like Ubuntu One, the software store and the important known issues. I like how the new boot experience was introduced in the release notes :) However, I think more things could be done for Lucid... Here is some stuff that I think should have appeared in the release notes at some point: * As an experiment, many icons have been removed from menus and buttons. We intend to only use icons for objects like files and applications. If you see an exception to this pattern, please file a bug report. Please leave feedback on the experiment [somewhere]. * It is under consideration to disable tap to click by default on most laptop touch pads. That behaviour will be introduced soon. Users will need to use the hard buttons beside the touch pads. This is to avoid issues where one could accidentally brush the touch pad while typing. It is now really easy to configure the touchpad via System -> Preferences -> Mouse. Please let us know about this change [somewhere]. * The login screen (GDM) has been upgraded to version 2.28, which is a complete rewrite from that shipped in previous versions of Ubuntu. As a result, full fledged configuration tools are not yet available for it but we have made a tool to change the most important options. However, it is a much more shiny and integrated experience :) * Services Administration has been removed because... It makes sense to explain the technical reason behind changes here, and to explain whether they are temporary, required for something else or could be fixed with a helping hand. Otherwise, we end up with users feeling lost, getting angry about experiments (because lots of people assume we don't listen, when in fact the purpose of many changes that feel like useless regressions is we _want_ them to give feedback) and generally being less constructive than they could be if we gave them the right information in a central place. To accommodate this, it would also make a lot of sense to have two different release notes pages (or maybe a fancy collapsing container via Javascript), to get server and desktop changes detached from each other, simply to be more readable, maybe with Known Issues and Download shared between the two. Another possibility is an official news page (blog style, with an RSS feed) for the development release :) Bye, Dylan McCall ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-doc mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc</a> End of ubuntu-doc Digest, Vol 61, Issue 24 ****************************************** </blockquote></div> -- "FIVE" has four letters