Why not enabling APT links in the Documentation??? (bis)

[yann_ubuntu-1 at yahoo.fr]

Hi Dougie, thanks for your answer.

i don't think it is a halfway solution, but a 95%-way solution, as:
- it gives to the user a way to install one or several packages in 2 clicks. 
- it educates the user by giving the link to all methods to install a package
- it is neutral: one can choose to use command line or graphical method or APT link
- it is very concise (simplicity and efficiency of the Documentation)
- it avoids omissions (e.g. currently some pages only talk about Synaptic... what about Kubuntu users?) 
- it avoids repetitions (and saves Documentation contributor's time) by centralizing all methods in 1 page.

The only difference with the direct APT link is that it requires 2 clicks while the direct APT link just requires 1.


..and i think it is urgent as i clearly see the difference of efficiency with the French Documentation :)

I made another example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Thunderbird#Installation

Regards,
Yann


--- En date de : Mar 7.4.09, Dougie Richardson <dougierichardson at ubuntu.com> a écrit :

> De: Dougie Richardson <dougierichardson at ubuntu.com>
> Objet: Re: Why not enabling APT links in the Documentation??? (bis)
> À: yann_ubuntu-1 at yahoo.fr
> Cc: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Mardi 7 Avril 2009, 15h35
> Hi Yann,
> 
> I don't really see the need to enable this functionality as
> pressing
> enough to implement a halfway solution. Why do you feel it
> is so
> urgent?
> 
> 2009/4/7  <yann_ubuntu-1 at yahoo.fr>:
> >
> > Alan, Matthew, thank you for your answers.
> >
> > @all:
> > I looked at the archives about this topic. If i
> understood well, this ML group is ok to use APT in the
> Documentation, but is blocked since Sept.2008 by the Ubuntu
> sysadmins.
> >
> > 1) It's 1st time I see such a "ticket request", how
> can we push this to go faster ?  (i tried to add myself as
> "requestor" but it didn't work). Do we have any clue why it
> takes so much time? Any answer from the sysadmins? How can
> we contact directly the sysadmins?
> >
> > 2) Before this request is approved, we could start
> using the "pkgb" intermediary method proposed by Jacob: see
> "VLC example" here :http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7022914&postcount=15
> > This will simplify the Documentation and it will be
> very easy to switch to direct APT links when they are
> enabled.
> > Are you all ok to start this way?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yann
> >
> >
> >
> > --- En date de : Lun 6.4.09, Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com>
> a écrit :
> >
> >> De: Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com>
> >> Objet: Re: Why not enabling APT links in the
> Documentation??? (bis)
> >> À: yann_ubuntu-1 at yahoo.fr
> >> Cc: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Date: Lundi 6 Avril 2009, 21h56
> >> Yann,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM,  <yann_ubuntu-1 at yahoo.fr>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I am very surprised that nobody answered my
> previous
> >> message on the ML. I think this will radically
> increase the
> >> popularity of the Documentation, so please have a
> look at
> >> it!
> >>
> >> We've discussed this multiple times in the past
> and
> >> requested back in
> >> September 2008 that apt links be enabled on the
> wiki.
> >> Unfortunately
> >> the Ubuntu sysadmins haven't done it yet.
> >>
> >> For those interested in following the ticket it is
> here:
> >>
> >> https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=3005
> >> (user/password ubuntu/ubuntu)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthew East
> >> http://www.mdke.org
> >> gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Dougie Richardson
> http://www.lynxworks.eu/
> dougierichardson at ubuntu.com
>