[Updated] WikiGuide

Marc Kaplan mk at technomensch.net
Thu Oct 16 01:30:06 UTC 2008

Matthew East wrote:
> Hiya,
>> Matthew East wrote:
>>> Reading your email, I don't think that we necessarily have different
>>> views about what information the page should provide. As a result, and
>>> given that I think the previous draft of the page (which was only
>>> introduced about a month ago as a result of Allan's work) reads rather
>>> better, I think what we should do is to revert the changes, but add a
>>> "Reference" section which includes the links which you've added, and
>>> we can take the discussion from there.
> I've tried this now - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
> See what you think. I've removed a couple of the links which you had
> included, because I don't think they are particularly valid for our
> wiki. In particular the HelpOnNavigation isn't really valid for our
> new theme, and I prefer WikiGuide/PageCreation to HelpOnPageCreation
> and I don't really see a need for users to read both. I've included
> the rest, I hope.
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Marc Kaplan <mk at technomensch.net> wrote:
>> Essentially, here is where the breakdown and the source of my confusion
>> constant confusion existed [which I now realize my version doesn't help
>> either]:
>> *How are the links offered on HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax any different from the
>> links served up on HelpOnEditing?
> I don't really know, they are both Moin provided documents and I agree
> that they are a bit confusing. Maybe we should just use one of them,
> to avoid bombarding the user with too much information. Which do you
> prefer?
With respect, to be perfectly honest, if *I* was doing it, and I had no 
restrictions, I would completely ignore the following MoinMoinWiki group 
landing pages:

HelpForUsers <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpForUsers>
HelpOnEditing <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnEditing>
HelpOnActions <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnActions>

And just put those links (and 'maybe' some of the text) on the Guide 
Page as our *official* go-to guide.  That way, if someone wants to edit, 
they just come here and there are links for whatever they need without 
having to jump through hoops or click all over the place.  In other 
words, it might look something like this:


With that in mind, some of the pages, like "/Formatting" could 
incorporate the "Basic Formatting" coding instead.  That way we can 
remove that link,

Then, related to our other "Categories" thread, we really need a section 
on this page called "Categories vs. Stubs" in the same vein as "Which 

I also thought that the "Integrate" question was a great place to put 
the links for "searching the wiki"

BTW- what were your thoughts about submitting the documentation 
confusion to the MoinMoin bug tracking?

Marc Kaplan

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