searching docs
Robert Freeman-Day
presgas at gmail.com
Wed May 7 15:01:50 UTC 2008
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I agree that the bug site should be scored higher. In testing 8.04, I
found the best info I got was from bugs.launchpad.net. In addition, it
was also a good way to get me started on contributing more.
Robert
Neal McBurnett wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 08:25:22PM +0100, Matthew East wrote:
>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Matthew Nuzum
>> <matthew.nuzum at canonical.com> wrote:
>>> First, do we need more than one search results page:
>>> 1. A help results page that weights results as listed below - people
>>> use this when search for help
>>> 2. A general results page people use this when searching the other
>>> areas of the website
>> For me this is absolutely essential.
>>
>> If we are seeking to provide a useful search for users looking for
>> help, then a number of websites should not be included in the search
>> results: the development wiki, the brainstorm website, the main
>> website and bugs.
>
> Why not search bugs? They usually include the most authoritative
> advice from developers on problems, including workarounds. Developers
> are focussed there rather than on the forums and answers sites because
> the bugs page has to be updated anyway. And if people update the
> description of the bug, as they should when good clarifications,
> resolutions and workarounds are found, they are generally more concise
> for help than the forums and mailing lists which can go on for pages
> and pages and be confusing for users.
>
> So I would rank bugs.launchpad higher than the forums and answers for
> help requests. Perhaps 0.7 for bugs, and 0.6 for forums, answers and
> mailing lists.
>
> Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/
>
>> If we are going to provide a useful search for those interested in
>> Ubuntu as users or potential contributors, then the main website and
>> development wiki are the key resources to index, and I think that at
>> least some (if not all) of the help websites should be excluded.
>>
>> The two search features could then be plugged in to appropriate
>> places, depending on which type of results is required. I can't think
>> of any reason to have a single search.
>>
>>> Second, tell me what you think about the weighting:
>>>
>>> Think of the weights as a percentage. 1 is the highest, 0 is the lowest.
>>>
>>> help.ubuntu.com 1
>> A distinction should be made here between "official" documentation and
>> community documentation (help.ubuntu.com/community) - the latter
>> should be weighted slightly lower.
>>
>>> forums.ubuntu.com 0.8
>>> lists.ubuntu.com 0.8
>> That works, although I would weight the forum slightly higher, because
>> its threads will be simpler for the average user to understand via a
>> web interface.
>>
>>> wiki.ubuntu.com 0.6
>>> www.ubuntu.com 0.6
>> Not to be indexed for help - see above.
>>
>>> answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ 0.4
>> Can be indexed with the same weight as mailing lists, I would have thought.
>>
>>> packages.ubuntu.com 0.3
>>> bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ 0.2
>>>
>>> Site's that aren't listed will be excluded from the search results,
>>> can you think of any I've missed?
>> Upstream help websites such as library.gnome.org should be included here.
>
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