request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
Brad Sukala
bradsukala at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 03:15:44 UTC 2007
I made some edits to the accouncement. Inserted serial/series commas where
needed; made the spacing after periods consistent (sometimes it was 2
spaces, sometimes 1...I made them all 1); removed a duplicate phrase about
selecting the mirror closest to you to DL the image.
Great work on this announcement overall. Makes me even more excited to
upgrade!
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> 1. Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> (Eero Salokannel)
> 2. xml to pdf - potential replacement technology? (Matthew East)
> 3. Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> (Neal McBurnett)
> 4. Re: xml to pdf - potential replacement technology? (Jordan Mantha)
> 5. [patch] Fix for typo in switching + minor rewrite
> (Mads Peter Rommedahl)
> 6. Re: xml to pdf - potential replacement technology?
> (Dougie Richardson)
> 7. Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> (Steve Langasek)
> 8. Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> (Steve Langasek)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:31:19 +0300
> From: Eero Salokannel <eero.salokannel at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> To: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc: steve.langasek at canonical.com
> Message-ID: <470CC617.5010100 at gmail.com>
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> I can agree with mr Zimmerman, those are good ideas. I already set the
> headings to 3rd level to make it easier to read, but it might look a bit
> better if the thick lines were removed and the headings were set to 2nd
> level instead of 3rd...? (2nd level gives a thin brown line)
>
>
> Matt Zimmerman kirjoitti:
> > I think we should move "About Ubuntu" lower on the page, and "About the
> > release candidate" higher. Similarly, download and upgrade information
> > should be more prominent than general info (perhaps immediately after
> the
> > highlights?).
> >
> > More Info and About Ubuntu can probably be merged into one section.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:42:51AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >> Hi again,
> >>
> >> We're on from the beta to the release candidate, so I need your help
> once
> >> more in reviewing the draft of the release announcement. The draft can
> be
> >> found here:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/RCAnnouncement
> >>
> >> Much of this text has been copied wholesale from the beta announcement
> and
> >> will look familiar, but perhaps I've overlooked some important new
> >> information or introduced some errors along the way.
> >>
> >> There was also a discussion on this list after the beta about boot time
> >> improvements, but I don't think that resulted in any concrete numbers
> and
> >> the thread seems to have petered out. If there really are widespread
> boot
> >> speed improvements since Feisty that would be great to mention, but
> we'd
> >> need to demonstrate this first.
> >>
> >> Please feel free to edit the wiki page directly if corrections are
> needed,
> >> or if you have points that need discussion please Cc: me on any
> replies.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your help!
> >>
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:23:09 +0100
> From: "Matthew East" <matt at mdke.org>
> Subject: xml to pdf - potential replacement technology?
> To: "Ubuntu Doc Team" <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Hi,
>
> Just read this: http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/10/10-prince
>
> Seems to be free as in beer, although not as in speech. Does anyone
> want to check this out?
>
> Could we consider a non-libre technology for producing pdfs, if it
> happened to be easier than our current (totally screwy) solutions?
>
> --
> Matthew East
> http://www.mdke.org
> gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:24:12 -0600
> From: Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us>
> Subject: Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> To: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek at canonical.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com, Matt Zimmerman <mdz at ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20071010142412.GL18321 at feynman>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I would suggest talking some more about bittorrent. You encourage
> people to use it, but without motivation. Overloaded download sites
> is a big source of frustration and barrier to some users.
> So I suggest incorporating some of the language at
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
>
> about how much faster your experience will be, and perhaps how much
> you can help your friends out if you keep your torrent running a
> while as a seed.
>
> Also, I suggest getting this bug fixed so the release pages make it
> easier for people to find the torrents (and we stop pointing to an
> advertising site for commercial movie downloads....)
>
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/146514
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:42:51AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > We're on from the beta to the release candidate, so I need your help
> once
> > more in reviewing the draft of the release announcement. The draft can
> be
> > found here:
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/RCAnnouncement
> >
> > Much of this text has been copied wholesale from the beta announcement
> and
> > will look familiar, but perhaps I've overlooked some important new
> > information or introduced some errors along the way.
> >
> > There was also a discussion on this list after the beta about boot time
> > improvements, but I don't think that resulted in any concrete numbers
> and
> > the thread seems to have petered out. If there really are widespread
> boot
> > speed improvements since Feisty that would be great to mention, but we'd
> > need to demonstrate this first.
> >
> > Please feel free to edit the wiki page directly if corrections are
> needed,
> > or if you have points that need discussion please Cc: me on any replies.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help!
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-doc mailing list
> > ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:52:58 -0700
> From: "Jordan Mantha" <mantha at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: xml to pdf - potential replacement technology?
> To: "Ubuntu Doc Team" <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> <82926f0e0710100952i6dac4e93s4273fa9fd8c53a22 at mail.gmail.com>
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> On 10/10/07, Matthew East <matt at mdke.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just read this: http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/10/10-prince
> >
> > Seems to be free as in beer, although not as in speech. Does anyone
> > want to check this out?
>
> That sounds very nice. I'm not sure how "free as in beer" it is
> though. It is only free for individual, interactive use. I assume if
> we each had a copy and ran it on our computers it would count, but we
> couldn't put it on any servers or anything like that apparently.
>
> > Could we consider a non-libre technology for producing pdfs, if it
> > happened to be easier than our current (totally screwy) solutions?
>
> I think definitely yes. The fact that we use Launchpad is already one
> way we are doing this. I think it's worth it for us to get
> good-quality PDFs even if it's not a FLOSS solution for now. I think
> it's also more important that we have a solution that we can actually
> use. If we have to go through all kinds of acrobatics to spit out a
> pdf then nobody is going to want to do it.
>
> -Jordan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:37:36 +0200
> From: "Mads Peter Rommedahl" <lhademmor at gmail.com>
> Subject: [patch] Fix for typo in switching + minor rewrite
> To: ubuntu-doc <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> <d65b68da0710101037x21ca9e3cr6cac85efeebef0f8 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mads Peter Rommedahl <lhademmor at gmail.com>
> Date: 09/10/2007 20.52
> Subject: Re: Fix for typo in switching + minor rewrite
> To: philbull at gmail.com
>
> Hi, I have no idea what to do with this, so I just send it to you:
> I found a typo in the help-document about Ubuntu equivalents to Windows
> programs, and while fixing that, I took the liberty of rewriting some
> other
> portions of the page.
>
> Can you comment on my efforts, please? :)
>
>
> 2007/10/9, Phil Bull <philbull at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi Mads,
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 17:13 +0200, Mads Peter Rommedahl wrote:
> > > Hi, I have no idea what to do with this, so I just send it to you:
> > > I found a typo in the help-document about Ubuntu equivalents to
> > > Windows programs, and while fixing that, I took the liberty of
> > > rewriting some other portions of the page.
> > >
> > > Can you comment on my efforts, please? :)
> > > Also, do you know what happened to the patch-mail that I sent to
> > > ubuntu-doc-mailing list?
> >
> > Nice work on finding this one, and thanks for the patch! Could you make
> > a small correction to it, please? "Calender" should be spelt "calendar".
> > Also, I'm unsure about the second part of the patch where it says "and
> > much more". This doesn't really give the user any extra information, so
> > could probably be removed.
> >
> > I've just applied the patch that you sent to ubuntu-doc. Normally you
> > need to wait a week or so for your patch to get reviewed if you send it
> > to the mailing list - most of us are really busy, so can't respond
> > immediately. The only reason I can review so fast at the moment is
> > because I have a bit of spare time that I'm reserving for mentoring
> > students...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > --
> > Phil Bull
> > http://www.launchpad.net/people/philbull
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:37:20 +0100
> From: "Dougie Richardson" <ddrichardson at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: xml to pdf - potential replacement technology?
> To: "Matthew East" <matt at mdke.org>
> Cc: Ubuntu Doc Team <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hi Matt,
>
> I'll check this out if its OK with everyone - especially apt given the
> work
> I've just done for the Desktop Training.
>
> I've got to admit that the current conversion tools are terrible, dblatex
> does a good job but customization is severely limited. Apache FOP is quite
> flexible in this respect but is very tempremental and has difficulty with
> links and indexs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dougie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew East" <matt at mdke.org>
> To: "Ubuntu Doc Team" <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:23 PM
> Subject: xml to pdf - potential replacement technology?
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just read this: http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/10/10-prince
> >
> > Seems to be free as in beer, although not as in speech. Does anyone
> > want to check this out?
> >
> > Could we consider a non-libre technology for producing pdfs, if it
> > happened to be easier than our current (totally screwy) solutions?
> >
> > --
> > Matthew East
> > http://www.mdke.org
> > gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
> >
> > --
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> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:16 -0700
> From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek at canonical.com>
> Subject: Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> To: Eero Salokannel <eero.salokannel at gmail.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20071010214916.GG3569 at dario.dodds.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Eero,
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:31:19PM +0300, Eero Salokannel wrote:
>
> > I can agree with mr Zimmerman, those are good ideas. I already set the
> > headings to 3rd level to make it easier to read, but it might look a bit
> > better if the thick lines were removed and the headings were set to 2nd
> > level instead of 3rd...? (2nd level gives a thin brown line)
>
> Sorry, this announcement is being sent as plain text, not as wiki markup;
> so
> what's relevant is how the raw text looks, not how it renders in the wiki.
> (I'm sure there's some option to turn off rendering of the document, but I
> didn't take the time to figure out how to do this before requesting
> feedback.)
>
> So I've reverted these changes to the highlighting as we really want the
> headers to line up with the raw text lines underneath.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:24:10 -0700
> From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek at canonical.com>
> Subject: Re: request for review: Gutsy release candidate announcement
> To: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20071010222410.GH3569 at dario.dodds.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:23:17AM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > I think we should move "About Ubuntu" lower on the page, and "About the
> > release candidate" higher. Similarly, download and upgrade information
> > should be more prominent than general info (perhaps immediately after
> the
> > highlights?).
>
> > More Info and About Ubuntu can probably be merged into one section.
>
> Agreed on all of these. Please review my changes, I don't know if I've
> moved the "About the release candidate" section too high now?
>
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:42:51AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > We're on from the beta to the release candidate, so I need your help
> once
> > > more in reviewing the draft of the release announcement. The draft
> can be
> > > found here:
> > >
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/RCAnnouncement
> > >
> > > Much of this text has been copied wholesale from the beta announcement
> and
> > > will look familiar, but perhaps I've overlooked some important new
> > > information or introduced some errors along the way.
> > >
> > > There was also a discussion on this list after the beta about boot
> time
> > > improvements, but I don't think that resulted in any concrete numbers
> and
> > > the thread seems to have petered out. If there really are widespread
> boot
> > > speed improvements since Feisty that would be great to mention, but
> we'd
> > > need to demonstrate this first.
> > >
> > > Please feel free to edit the wiki page directly if corrections are
> needed,
> > > or if you have points that need discussion please Cc: me on any
> replies.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>
>
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