new-since-6.10.xml

Will Simpson will at willsimpson.org
Fri Feb 16 14:14:12 UTC 2007


On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 09:08 -0500, Jonathan Jesse wrote:

> > On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 00:11 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >> 		<title>New Features Since 6.10</title>
> >
> > I think the appropriate place for marketing new features in themselves
> > is on the Web site. In the help, I think the "What's new since Ubuntu
> > 6.10" page should instead concentrate on advising those people who have
> > just upgraded from 6.10 *what they need to do differently* when using
> > 7.04.
> >
> > This includes:
> > *   any changes in the menu layout (e.g. "most of the Preferences and
> >      Administration panels are now found in the Control Center window,
> >      rather than in the menus")
> > *   any non-trivial changes to the default application set
> > *   any major changes to individual default applications, if those
> >      changes require relearning (e.g. major UI changes)
> > *   anything substantial that people used to need to do but don't need
> >      to do any more.
> >
> > New features might be worth mentioning, but only if they are likely to
> > cause people who were using Ubuntu 6.10 to start using a particular
> > program in 7.04 when they weren't using it in 6.10.
> >
> >  ...
> >
> >  I realize quite a few of these questions are annoying ones that may
> > require poring through changelogs, and/or annoying developers on IRC or
> > by e-mail or phone. But I really think that the usefulness of this page
> > will be dependent on how well it has been translated into explanations
> > of changes that upgraders really need to know about.
> >
> > You may well find that once changes that don't fit this criterion have
> > been removed, the remainder can be a single <itemizedlist> instead of
> > lots of <sect1>s.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
> > WOW. Tons of thoughtful suggestions. But...
> >
> > I disagree with the premise that this page "should instead concentrate on
> > advising those people who have just upgraded from 6.10 *what they need to
> > do
> > differently* when using 7.04." I feel this page would be best suited to
> > introduce (some would called market) relevant changes between Edgy and
> > Feisty.  It is correct that this is just a start and I see many if not all
> > items linked deeper in the help to fuller explanations as to "*what they
> > need to do differently*" which is not the function of this page. I don't
> > want to be the arbiter of what the user thinks are the relevant changes.
> > This list comes straight from ubuntu.com.
> >
> > If this page was to include "*what they need to do differently*" is would
> > be
> > huge and duplicate many other relevant sections of the help system. I'll
> > address each suggestion (some great, some confused in my opinion) in a
> > separate email once we get past what the premise of this page is. I'm
> > confused because Matthew first disagrees with the premise of the page then
> > goes on to suggest edits for each section. If I have the premise
> > completely
> > wrong then throw the whole thing out and start over.
> > What do others think?
> >
> > Will
> >
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> Isn't what's new supposed to be covered in the release notes?
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Jesse


I don't recall there being a "release notes" section in the help layout?
If this isn't what "New Since 6.10" is for, then what? Who put this in
the layout and what was their intention for it?

Will
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