Questions on Documentation on the wiki

Sean Wheller sean at
Thu Oct 27 17:00:18 UTC 2005

On Thursday 27 October 2005 18:37, Matt Kirchhoff wrote:
> Quoth Dennis Kaarsemaker on 10/27/2005 2:46 AM:
> > On do, 2005-10-27 at 09:10 +0100, Matthew East wrote:
> >>I am strongly opposed to this.
> >
> > Me too, instead It should be made much and much clearer that Ubuntu and
> > Kubuntu are the same distribution.
> Why? To non-geek users they're *not* the same distribution. If a user
> has a different interface for burning CDs, listening to music,
> installing packages, etc. etc., then in a sense it is completely different.
> If I'm a non-technical user looking for help on installing packages, I
> don't want to go to, find the section on installating
> packages, and suddenly be presented with a bunch of information on
> things I don't see on my desktop. Wait a minute--the label on my CD says
> "Ubuntu"...what's all this mention of "Kubuntu"?
> The fact that we have separate websites (, and
> forums (, and logos only adds to the
> perceived division of the two.
> Quoth Matthew East on 10/27/2005 1:10 AM:
> > Having one wiki for both does not in any way impede the development of
> > kubuntu docs, IMHO.
> Yes, but it does impede the sanity of non-geek users looking for help!
> If I'm the only one who sees mixing docs as problematic, then I'll shut
> up! But I do think there needs to be at least *some* division, such as
> George Deka's suggestion of individual links pointing to docs for each DE.

Matt Kirchhoff is right.

The art of producing the docs for each distro in the same repos was originally 
that we would all distributions would be able to benefit on the common base 
and differentiate themselves with profiles and different stylesheet 
formatting. But still to an everyday user, kubuntu is kubuntu, not ubuntu and 
does not care much that there is a common base or that there is a Debian 
system under there somewheres.

In earlier threads I brought up the question of whether it is a good idea for 
kubuntu to be developing docs in the ubuntu repos. People objected, I respect 
that and we move on. However, it now seems that people have a similar problem 
with doing kubuntu docs under ubuntu wiki.

As I see it, without a technical benefit such as profiles or object reuse, 
there is no real reason why kubuntu should be done under ubuntu. Oh the free 
use of the Canonical server is a plus.

Anyway, I ranted my reasons before, won't do it again. But this makes me think 
there may be something to it. 

Sean Wheller
Technical Author
sean at
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