Sec: Unclassified RE: Ubuntu Desktop Starter Guide Feedback

Matthew East mdke at ubuntu.com
Tue Nov 29 23:32:36 UTC 2005


On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 08:38 +1000, Stoffers, Robert LAC wrote:
> Hi matt,
> 
> I like your proposed changes, they make the Desktop Guide a little more
>  clearer and easier to navigate. I particularly like your suggestion of
>  moving Hardware to its own chapter, it looked a little out of place for
>  a topic that has the potential to be quite large in the original outline. 

Great.

> Software management is a curly one; its something you really have to
>  know before much of the rest of the guide is useful. I'm not sure 
> which way I'd like to swing with this, perhaps others on the list 
> can offer their suggestions and convince me either way.

I agree that calling a section "Software Management" is not really very
user friendly. However, I think we should think of a title which makes
it clear that the section deals with installing, removing and upgrading
programs. I can't immediately think of anything though.

> The Tips and Tricks section is a left over from the Breezy Starter Guide, 
> I've been working on a few ways of incorporating the information into the 
> rest of the guide. At the moment its just a catch all for misc info, 
> it will probably not end up in the finished product.

That would be great. I will start helping with the guide now; up til now
I've just done a fair amount of talking, and not enough helping, so I'll
start hacking and give you a hand!

A couple of comments about something I saw earlier this evening (this
may or may not be indicative of other parts of the guide):

Basic Compilers (build-essential)
 * Read the section about adding the Universe and Multiverse
repositories 
 * Install the build-essential package with Add/Remove Applications (See
the section on addding applications to your Ubuntu system)
 * Development > build-essential
        
First thing is that this doesn't actually have anything which explains
what the thing does.

Second thing is how it handles package management: it refers to the
universe and multiverse repos (which I believe are not necessary for
this particular package) and then specifies a specific piece of
software. How about referring people to the section on installing
packages (which has a number of different solutions for installing
packages: gai, synaptic, cli etc) and simple telling people what
repository the things are in (build-essential is in main):

Basic Compilers (build-essential)

This installs all the tools necessary for compiling source code blah
blah

To install it:
 * Refer to the section about Installing Software
 * Install "build-essential" (main)

Matt
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