A few things

[John Hornbeck]

On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 23:46 +0100, John Levin wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2004, at 14:11, John Hornbeck wrote:
> 
> > So it seems most of the discussions have been happening on irc, between
> > doc writers and alot of questions are coming up.  Here is a list lets
> > see if we can answer some.
> 
> I don't use irc much - tho ubuntu is making me change my habits - so 
> missed these discussions.
> 
> >
> > 1.  What are we doing?  This has been asked alot out of me, yet I have
> > no clue. :-)
> 
> Yeah, what are we doing?
> 
> >
> > 2. Who is the doc team?  This again I don't really know, I know of
> > myself, plovs, sivang, asw.  Those are the ones I know, I think enrico
> > is in there somewhere, but he said he does not really write docs.
> 
> I'm on the doc team, inasmuch as I put my name down on the wiki.
> 
That is why I posted that part.  I was not sure who all was on the team.
> 
> > 4.  Should we be talking through mail instead of irc? Yes, we need to
> > convay ideas through mail and chat while we work in irc.  If major
> > discussions happen in irc, we need to log them here.  Not everyone can
> > be in irc all the time.
> 
> Email is much more useful for:
> a: being able to take time to consider a suggestion / reply
> b: being a convenient record of what has been suggested
> c: isn't stuck in time-zones.
> 
> >
> > 5. Who is our leader?  I have been told one has not been apointed yet.
> > This I think is something that needs to be made or at least a group who
> > can semi make decisions.
> 
> Yup - the organization has been haphazard so far. The wiki is a good 
> idea, but it's really not scaling - there's a mass of information about 
> everything in there, and it's becoming more and more difficult to 
> navigate.
> A bit of structure is really necessary - especially now that Warty is 
> out, we can start planning for the next six months, and make sure Hoary 
> has decent documentation
> 
> >
> > 6. Hornbeck, way are you so sexy?  Well I cannot help that.
> 
> But you could give the rest of us a few tips :)
> 
Well first you have to be me :-) than it helps to be sexy.
> >
> > 7. Do we start adding things to the new wiki?  I personally am holding
> > off that way if something happens in this merge, I don't want my work
> > messed up.  I have also slowed on the old wiki due to the merge coming
> > and I don't want to keep adding and end up losing something.
> 
> I'm not sure the wiki is the best way of writing documentation. Aside 
> from problems of scaling, at the moment, it's doing something different 
> - being ad-hoc tips and troubleshooting. I don't think it's really the 
> way to compose "The Ubuntu Handbook."
I agree, I have talked to a few people about this.  That there is more
docs than just the wiki that need to be done.
> 
> >
> > These I think are most the questions I get.  I seem to get the question
> > asked also am *I*(hornbeck) the doc leader, no I am not.  I think more
> > discussion really needs to happen about what we are doing and who is
> > doing what.  Please respond and start talking.
> >
> 
> Anyone going to volunteer? Is Canonical going to appoint someone?
> 
> John
> 
I hope that sabdfl appoints someone, because I would hate to say that I
would volunteer and than step on someone's toes.  So we will wait and
see.

JohnHornbeck
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