proposed-migration, "SMOOTH_UPDATES", and NBS reports

Julian Andres Klode julian.klode at canonical.com
Thu Mar 3 20:46:40 UTC 2022


+1

Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson at canonical.com> schrieb am Do., 3. März
2022, 20:58:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 05:42, Julian Andres Klode <
> julian.klode at canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:29:19PM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
>> > Hey again,
>> >
>> > Le 08/12/2021 à 00:14, Steve Langasek a écrit :
>> > > I expect that with this option set, we will find much fewer problems
>> with
>> > > entanglement of library transitions, and in turn I hope developers
>> will be
>> > > less frustrated by migration delays.
>> > Right, I expect that to be the case. It's going to come at the cost of
>> > reducing the pressure for the team to complete the transitions since
>> that's
>> > not going to get in the way of having their updates to land.
>> > My personal feeling is that it's going to turn out to be an issue for
>> the
>> > archive and the release teams and that we aren't going to find proper
>> > staffing to deal with the problems, but hopefully I'm wrong there, we
>> will
>> > see.
>>
>> I think we should
>>
>> - disable smoothing at feature freeze
>>
>
> So we're now a little past feature freeze and smooth_updates is still in
> effect. This made the recent python/perl/the world transition a bit easier
> so that was probably a good thing overall but now that's behind us, maybe
> we should disable it now?
>
>
>> - work on getting NBS to 0 by beta freeze
>>
>
> So this becomes less of a whackamole.
>
> Cheers.
> mwh
>
>
>> If it doesn't work, maybe we need to revert to not autosmoothing
>> and force or add a smooth hint.
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