proposed-migration, "SMOOTH_UPDATES", and NBS reports

Michael Hudson-Doyle michael.hudson at canonical.com
Thu Mar 3 19:58:03 UTC 2022


On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 05:42, Julian Andres Klode <julian.klode at canonical.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:29:19PM +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > Hey again,
> >
> > Le 08/12/2021 à 00:14, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > > I expect that with this option set, we will find much fewer problems
> with
> > > entanglement of library transitions, and in turn I hope developers
> will be
> > > less frustrated by migration delays.
> > Right, I expect that to be the case. It's going to come at the cost of
> > reducing the pressure for the team to complete the transitions since
> that's
> > not going to get in the way of having their updates to land.
> > My personal feeling is that it's going to turn out to be an issue for the
> > archive and the release teams and that we aren't going to find proper
> > staffing to deal with the problems, but hopefully I'm wrong there, we
> will
> > see.
>
> I think we should
>
> - disable smoothing at feature freeze
>

So we're now a little past feature freeze and smooth_updates is still in
effect. This made the recent python/perl/the world transition a bit easier
so that was probably a good thing overall but now that's behind us, maybe
we should disable it now?


> - work on getting NBS to 0 by beta freeze
>

So this becomes less of a whackamole.

Cheers.
mwh


> If it doesn't work, maybe we need to revert to not autosmoothing
> and force or add a smooth hint.
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